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Cristi 
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wow really? This can mean two things: you haven't heard much prog to say Marillion with Hogarth is the most boring thing ever (not likely to have happened, right?) or you just listened to a song or album you did not like and gave up all together. I mean what did you listen to to come up with such a radical statement? How many albums have you listened to? (there are quite a few). What songs and albums put you off? I've listened to some awful neo-prog, and it was awful because those bands were poor imitations of the big names of the genre.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 00:07 |
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^PA-members that I find very generic and boring
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Cristi
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 00:16 |
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wait, am I boring you? I have never picked on other members, never insulted anyone here. And won't start now. But why are you being rude right know it's gotta be a wtf moment.
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Saperlipopette!
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Cristi
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 00:28 |
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ok, sorry then, nevermind
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 00:32 |
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Coldplay. ‘Nuff said
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Cristi
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 00:34 |
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true, but you are in the prog lounge right now, so stick to prog  |
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Catcher10
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I too wonder what are people listening to? Marillion especially with H is pretty amazing music, and his lyrics are excellent, well written. Brave and Marbles are two of the most brilliant recordings of that genre, and screw the genre but of that time frame. Rothery and Pete are amazing performers, Pete's bass playing is so deep with emotion its crazy to think it is boring music. What I think happens is some listeners simply do not spend enough quality time just sitting and hearing the music. Many, many times I buy a record and don't like it, but once I sit and simply listen with a passion it then hits me. KC took 10yrs for me to get, and now I really enjoy it, but it helped that I never thought they were boring. CAN on the other hand was easy for me, not all of it but most or at least their style. As Mosh said CAN has a lot of funk in their style and I am a huge funk/R&B listener all my life. Parliament/Funkadelic/EW&F/BarKays, if you don't understand funk CAN will be tough to like because there is little rock/hard rock to their base.
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SteveG
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 03:45 |
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Cristi
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 04:20 |
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so it seems like I am Stewart and Micky is Butthead
He loves his RPI |
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Blacksword
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It's all subjective. I don't mind Porcupine Tree, but I can understand why it bores some people. It's hardly full of surprises or musical breakthroughs, it's just well performed, well produced music, with some nice sounds and some memorable songs here and there. In my opinion. Some people need more, or simply prefer prog the first time round, rather than modern derivative acts. Hogarth era Marillion is fairly original, I guess. I don't think 'Genesis!!' when I hear it, which I did when I heard Marillion with Fish, but for me there is nothing exciting about it at all. I've heard Marbles, Brave, Seasons End and Araknaphobia, and I've heard nothing that made me want to go out and explore the rest. I think I fell asleep during the film of Brave. I'm also not a fan of Hogarths voice. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Cristi
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Obviously it's all subjective, but he said and I quote " that is the most boring music i've ever heard within the context of prog rock". Rather harsh, with no back up argument. I guess what bothered me it's not what he said, but how he said it. Does it make sense? At least you explained why you don't like the h era of Marillion.
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Depends if it was any good or not.
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 05:47 |
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The last album I remember listening with that description was PFM's latest. There's music I don't like but recognize its value but I couldn't think of anything positive to say about it.
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 06:08 |
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There have been more testy discussions then this one as this one is really quite tame. However, I do foresee arguments about how bad or benign it is coming soon!
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progaardvark
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 06:14 |
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They'll have all my noses too. I can't bear to go nostril-less.
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i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
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progaardvark
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I'm more worried about where to put my socks when I reach a toll booth. I've thought about putting one in my colon.
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i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
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moshkito
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Wow ... you must be Lasse Braun's offspring! Interesting idea, but some of it was done in THE MAGIC CHRISTIAN already, although its humor might be slightly off kilter here, and probably way too boring.
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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moshkito
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Posted: November 27 2018 at 06:59 |
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I would "question" anyone's idea of what is and is not "music" or "non music". The more interesting and famous thought similar to this is Jean-Luc Godard's "anti-film", and almost all of his film work all the way through the 80's is an incredible mish-mash of weird, funny, strange and everything else that you can imagine in film, that is ... you would think that is something that students with a camera for the first time would do ... and yet, this guy was doing it with famous writers, and actors and actresses, and folks that wanted badly to be in his films because they knew they could do anything they wanted. "Freedom" in music is an oxymoron. First of all almost all music is "regulated" by some context or other. Thus creating something as "non-music" is almost impossible since we are trying to define the wind ... with musical terms, and the wind just went somewhere else you didn't expect, or know. Some folks, don't like this in music, or film. Why? It's simple really ... and scary ... it jolts you hard and you do not know how to react to it, and later, most folks end up not liking it because they do not understand it. Here's a thought for you ... and it comes from Julian Beck and the Living Theater, but it had its roots much earlier in theater and film .... WHY ARE YOU PUTTING A MEANING ON SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT? We might, decide, 50 years later that it meant this and that and was about this and that ... but do you know of any artist that works thinking like that? Yeah, that's right ... none! You do what you feel, and in those days, you did not pay attention to a whole lot ... and in some cases people were stoned immaculate, and I doubt that a college educated moron would be trying to put together something that has "no meaning" ... it was, btw, what the music departments were trying to teach their students in the late 70's and 80's and it was so in Santa Barbara and most of the California systems. However, the "music" was totally tied down by the concepts and ideas of what "music" is. And you have to remove all that ... before you can find a new world of ... you name it. Unfortunately, we have killed it for progressive and prog music because of definitions that are ridiculous and have nothing to do with music and instead stay focused on one instrument ... the most ridiculous thing ever ... a blue guitar, or slanted organ that most churches had ... becomes a "progressive music" essential ... There is no such thing as an album that is "very generic or boring" ... there is/are only listeners that do not like something or other, and think their opinion is more important than your, and have as much weight as a feather or cotton. You decide!
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