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What's your least favorite album from giants?

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Originally posted by Lear'sFool Lear'sFool wrote:

Think I'll nominate Love Beach.

ELP certainly was a giant, and they fell FAR from their grace when they were forced to cut that.

But the cover... there is no way they didn't agree to that. Confused Good Lord.
I'm starting feel some ELP bias toward the OP now! LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2015 at 09:46
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Lear'sFool Lear'sFool wrote:

Think I'll nominate Love Beach.

ELP certainly was a giant, and they fell FAR from their grace when they were forced to cut that.

But the cover... there is no way they didn't agree to that. Confused Good Lord.
I'm starting feel some ELP bias toward the OP now! LOL
But Renaissance's Time Line is even worse, and also the cover art is not better than Love Beach
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Walton Street Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2015 at 09:50
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Lear'sFool Lear'sFool wrote:

Think I'll nominate Love Beach.

ELP certainly was a giant, and they fell FAR from their grace when they were forced to cut that.

But the cover... there is no way they didn't agree to that. Confused Good Lord.
I'm starting feel some ELP bias toward the OP now! LOL
But Renaissance's Time Line is even worse, and also the cover art is not better than Love Beach
 
never saw the Renaissance cover before - had to google it.
It looks like the cover from a Bonnie Tyler album.
 
That and Love Beach just scream prog don't they :)
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Originally posted by Walton Street Walton Street wrote:

i'm probably the only person on this planet that thinks The Final Cut is a masterpiece
No, you are not.

Roger was working so hard on it, really emotionally draining everyone around him, and this is how we repay him.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:


That looks horrible just by looking at itDead
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Walton Street Walton Street wrote:

i'm probably the only person on this planet that thinks The Final Cut is a masterpiece
No, you are not.

Roger was working so hard on it, really emotionally draining everyone around him, and this is how we repay him.



I love the construction of the Final Cut album.  It seems to breathe history and the sparse feel, often quiet and acoustic, work brilliantly to make the album intimate.  It also seemed entirely unconcerned about "fitting in" to the 80s commercial sounds that other prog giants seemed to be chasing with sometimes less than awesome results.  Final Cut is just playing music to suit the personal themes and I think Waters made some great choices.
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Originally posted by Walton Street Walton Street wrote:

i'm probably the only person on this planet that thinks The Final Cut is a masterpiece

Nope...there's at least 2 of us Wink
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The only one I've sat through is Beat. Probs their worst but it's still okay.
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I was thinking that the album that I would always enjoy the least, will always be one that PA has everyone gushing over!
 
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After the fairly commercial, hard-rocking sound of 'The Wall,' 'The Final Cut' was incredibly disappointing. It sounded like all the slow parts of The Wall strung together for 40 minutes. But a few years ago, I figured something out.

The key to enjoying 'The Final Cut' is to put on the headphones and imagine that you are listening to a Broadway show, that is, the telling of a story through music and the spoken word.  It's a musical, for crying out loud. That's what occurred to me, and turned me from a hater to someone who could at least appreciate what Roger had created. (Still doesn't rock, though.)
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Originally posted by dave-the-rave dave-the-rave wrote:

After the fairly commercial, hard-rocking sound of 'The Wall,' 'The Final Cut' was incredibly disappointing. It sounded like all the slow parts of The Wall strung together for 40 minutes. But a few years ago, I figured something out.

The key to enjoying 'The Final Cut' is to put on the headphones and imagine that you are listening to a Broadway show, that is, the telling of a story through music and the spoken word.  It's a musical, for crying out loud. That's what occurred to me, and turned me from a hater to someone who could at least appreciate what Roger had created. (Still doesn't rock, though.)

basically a Roger Water's solo album then
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FragileKings Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2015 at 02:40
I only know three of these: Test for Echo (which I like better than Hold Your Fire), The Final Cut (which is more of a Roger Waters solo album with PF members present and an album I rather like as well), and Big Generator (which I honestly struggle with except for two songs).

So, based on this list I will say Big Generator, though I did try to listen to the Jethro Tull album in bits once and decided right away I wouldn't buy it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Greg W Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2015 at 08:30
Originally posted by Walton Street Walton Street wrote:

i'm probably the only person on this planet that thinks The Final Cut is a masterpiece


I agree.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

who the hell put Camel in the Giants???  LOL

yes they beat ELP... twice Angry... I'll give you that.  But 'giant'  sorry man...  'Giants' are bands even non prog fans have HEARD of...  hell  there are likely prog fans out there that haven't heard them.  4th division prog groupman...with a bit of a cult following here. pfff LOLClap

Given that every Camel album from Mirage thru tationary Traveller (in 1984!) made the UK charts, I think they must have had some non prog fans.  Gentle Giant, suprisingly not included here among the "Giants", would be a group that had NO non prog fans.  But anyway, who cares what non prog fans think, if indeed they do  Sleepy
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I would nominate maybe Giant for a Day? Embarrassed

And hem, I think Hold Your Fire is FAR worse than Test for Echo.


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Originally posted by Greg W Greg W wrote:

Originally posted by Walton Street Walton Street wrote:

i'm probably the only person on this planet that thinks The Final Cut is a masterpiece


I agree.

i have that mcdonald and giles album - your picture of it is the only other time i've seen it
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Test for Echo is awful and uninspired IMO. I also love the Final Cut.
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Originally posted by dave-the-rave dave-the-rave wrote:

After the fairly commercial, hard-rocking sound of 'The Wall,' 'The Final Cut' was incredibly disappointing. It sounded like all the slow parts of The Wall strung together for 40 minutes. But a few years ago, I figured something out.

The key to enjoying 'The Final Cut' is to put on the headphones and imagine that you are listening to a Broadway show, that is, the telling of a story through music and the spoken word.  It's a musical, for crying out loud. That's what occurred to me, and turned me from a hater to someone who could at least appreciate what Roger had created. (Still doesn't rock, though.)

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I went from disliking Final Cut to enjoying. Took a long time but it was when getting a disc of the video EP that I realised it does have some nice tunes. A fair stack of DG solos. It's not really a rock album though; no problem. It approaches the concept of war, as a prequel to The Wall rather than a sequel. I think after the appeal of Comfortably Numb and perhaps with the exception of Sorrow the lack of a similar follow up and conforming to audience expectations has ensured alot of later Rog and PF music to exasperation.

It's still very austere like most of Roger's later work which is concealing the heart of this album.

Some albums have such a bad rep that I've avoided them - I mean I have to find time to play music I like never mind find stuff I might not.

Love all 80s and Beyond Crim, everything Yes, Genesis but did not like Test For Echo much - thought Rush were trying to be grunge. Uh uh. Still not heard Love Beach largely because buying anything with that cover (is it on CD?; not sure I've seen it) but it seems like buying gay porn to me. Not ideal... plus it has less than a high rep.

Big Generator has a truly awful cover (the turquoise version being slightly less awful than the yellow / pink but I found this project fine. Obviously nothing sounds like Heart of the Sunrise (why should it) it's a new band with an established name for sales purposes.

Hard to find too many albums that don't have something good on them somewhere though I recall being a bit appalled at the blandness of Camel's Breathless. Still, it's not on the list so... probably Test For Echo. But it's not that bad and I'd listen to it constantly compared to some certain mindless mainstream I hear from time to time.

Maybe not everything's classic on this list but nothing to get too over emotional over.







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