Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

I think that the Live version (Gates of Delirium) on (YesShows) is far superior to the version on Relayer! It is a very good track but I haven't included live performances in my list!

Edited by M27Barney - February 21 2014 at 09:04

infandous wrote: M27Barney wrote: I have been having a long thought on my favourite (all time) tracks, some of these are multiple section epics - but I have included the whole longer suites as you will see, this list was probably different a few years back and may change again in the next few I suppose, in no particular order. Garden of Dreams I am the sun (full) Tales from Topographic Oceans Awaken Firth of Fifth Suppers Ready Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence All of the Above Stardust we Are Subterranea Well, minus Subterranea, I would put these in my list as well.  Maybe add a couple (Love Is The Only Answer, Gates Of Delirium, Devil's Playground).

You don't like "Sleepless Incidental" from Subterranea?? The double CD has astonishing moments and overall I like the consistency - the best effort by a modern band alongside the Flokis of course!

Edited by M27Barney - February 21 2014 at 16:27

Subterranea, Ever and The wake - all ace CD's!

I`ll check them out. Awaken is a favourite   piece of music . classic yes line up too.

Roj wrote: The Seventh House and The Wake are the 2 best IQ albums imho. I agree totally with Rob about the Yesshows version of Gates, their second best track after the unparalleled genius of Awaken, which remains my favourite piece of music of all time.

I agree with all this.  I'm just not a fan of Subterrania.  I realize it may be heresy for IQ fans, but it's my least favorite IQ album of them all (I've never heard the two with the different singer, so I'm not including those).

seem you have a great collection. of IQ cd`s. we you saying that there subterranean seems to be there Topographic Oceans. which is my must be played amazing Yes album of all time. once those magical musical notes moved me into its amazing musical masterful musicians. epic work. we also some great lyrics!. so I my as well start with subterranean. ok.

All right, having listened to the new Transatlantic a few times, I have to say it reminds me of Fly From Here in the sense that it sounds like Prog for elderly gentlemen who can't stand too many surprises in their music.  Geriatric prog was how I described Fly From Here, and the new TA more or less fits that label for me.  It's far too smooth and uniform.  No bite, no surprises......even the tricksy instrumental passages seem incredibly tame even when compared to The Whirlwind, let alone the first two albums or the early works by their respective bands.

I still need to get more familiar with it (except for Shine.......I don't ever need to hear that horrid song again), but on the whole it seems very safe and non-threatening.  Something I would expect from Katy Perry or One Direction, not from a prog rock "super group" (of course, the music is far better than either of those two, but the general feeling it gives me is quite similar.........I guess what I'm going for here is that it's like "prog for the masses").

Maybe I've just grown too cynical, but I'm just not FEELING anything at all from this album.  It's all so slick and smooth and safe, I just don't get it.  I had hoped the epics would impress me, and the title track isn't bad, but even those just seem so bland.  Even Black As The Sky ,which I liked a lot at first, has lost it's charm rather quickly.

I've never been a huge TA fan to begin with, but I did get a lot of enjoyment out of their previous work.  This one just seems like it's going to go in the "don't listen to anymore at all" pile very soon.

Funny thing though, I actually like the second ballad more than Shine.  Though both are pretty weak and listless compared to something like We All Need Some Light.

All that said, I'm really enjoying Desolation Rose now, both CD's.  So it's not that I'm burned out on all things Stolt (maybe Morse though) like I was afraid I might be.  So there's that, anyway.


Edited by infandous - February 25 2014 at 10:55

Is anybody familiar with this?:

Time Requiem "The Inner Circle of Reality" (2004)
	Second Time Requiem record. New drummer (Zoltan Csörsz) and bass player (Jonas Reingold). Very tight and well performed. Recorded and mixed at Reingold Studios Sweden. Did a cover of ABBA as Japanese bonus track. Released by Regain Records (Europe) and Marquee Avalon (Japan).

I'm not bothering listening for a while - have other better CD's to play I think!

rushfan4 wrote: Is anybody familiar with this?: Time Requiem "The Inner Circle of Reality" (2004) Second Time Requiem record. New drummer (Zoltan Csörsz) and bass player (Jonas Reingold). Very tight and well performed. Recorded and mixed at Reingold Studios Sweden. Did a cover of ABBA as Japanese bonus track. Released by Regain Records (Europe) and Marquee Avalon (Japan).

Familiar, as in, I knew about it at the time of release, but I never heard it.  I believe it's a prog metal album of some sort, so I never bothered with it.