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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:31

I think in the past there were certain things which were funny only in the imagination and not if they occurred in real life, what was referred to as "black humour". However this line seems to have eroded over time and now people don't have a problem laughing at horrific non-fiction situations.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:36
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I think in the past there were certain things which were funny only in the imagination and not if they occurred in real life, what was referred to as "black humour". However this line seems to have eroded over time and now people don't have a problem laughing at horrific non-fiction situations.



I suppose. And being the optimist SmileDead I do like to hope, at least sometimes, it can be the healing process/coping mechanism type thing. I mean I was 13 when 9/11 happened and lived very close to NYC. Was touched pretty personally by it.

Now I laugh at some 9/11 jokes. Feel kinda bad but I wonder if its part of the whole "moving on" thing.
Though there were kids that started like...the next day which I think is a bit sick.
I'm tired and rambling. LOL But yeah, intriguing stuff to think about
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2010 at 02:40
I'll never forget the first time I heard Eminem.
 
"Skippety bee bop, Christopher Reeve
And Sonny Bono, look out for the trees
And how many retards will listen to me
When I say go to school and take a shot at the teach"
 
I was like wow. This guy just. Doesn't. Care.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2010 at 03:10
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I'll never forget the first time I heard Eminem.
 
"Skippety bee bop, Christopher Reeve
And Sonny Bono, look out for the trees
And how many retards will listen to me
When I say go to school and take a shot at the teach"
 
I was like wow. This guy just. Doesn't. Care.

Hmmm, I'm almost starting to like
http://www.americansweets.co.uk/ekmps/shops/statesidecandy/images/american-bigger-bag-of-mars-peanut-butter-m-m-s-11.4oz-323g-bag-143-p.jpg

Edited by Slartibartfast - August 15 2010 at 03:10
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2010 at 04:38
Great idea for a thread, Textbook. One of the best measures of how acceptable 'edgy' humour has become, is stand up comedy.

Humour evolves and changes to reflect the world we love in. If some of the observational stand up comics of today, had presented the kind of material they do, forty years ago, people would have run screaming from the theatres, into the nearest church! Often I think it works when humour steps over an unspoken mark. The classic example was the satirical news program 'Brass Eye' When I first saw this, I was almost too stunned to laugh. When I saw the Peadophilia special in 2001, I knew that times had changed, and I knew Chris Morris was going to get a severe dressing down for the show.

I think this was an important milestone in comedy, and while 'offensive' comedy was once the domain of only right wing, witless biggots, like Jim Davidson or Bernhard Manning, it's become the trademark of the intellectual left, and its audience comprised of 'clever' people who understand the 'point' and irony behind the jokes. Here may be crux of the matter in most cases; irony..

This is why it may be offensive when Mike Reid says 'I took my car into a Jewish garage and asked them to 'Simonize' it, and the b*****ds cut two inches off the exhaust pipe' but it is considered clever and racey when Jimmy Carr says 'you know your dates too young, when she's about to give you a BJ, and you say, open up here comes the choo choo'



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2010 at 05:39
That here comes the choo choo bit is shocking.
 
Bob Saget's version of The Aristocrats joke, which he will generally do if you shout out for it, is quite an experience in this category.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2010 at 20:04
I'm surprised we got this far without Two Girls One Cup coming up. Though originally intended as pornography the internet recast it as a source of comedy. See also things like Tubgirl and Goatse.
 
Also, you may wish to investigate a website called Rotten. Actually you may not, but it's illustrative of what this thread is about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2010 at 20:11
I accidentally posted in here just a few minutes ago, honestly thinking this was the "what are you eating / drinking" thread.

Imagine my reaction to see the post above me was about 2 girls 1 cup.   Confused  Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 00:39
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I was told this "joke" the other day.
 
 
Q: What did the deaf, blind boy with leukemia get on his birthday?
 
 
A: Raped
 
 
What's going on here?
The thing is, I laughed. Did you?
Do you think the advent of "anti-humour" like this- increasingly mainstream since the dawn of the internet and attendant memes, many of which are based on things which are not traditionally considered funny- is significant in any way? Does it say something about a person if they laugh about it? Is it a healthy thing with a wholly imaginary situation where there is no boy and there is no rape and there is no leukemia and we simply laugh at the defeat of our expectations that something witty will come and instead we get something bleak and horrible? Or is it somehow sinister that we be amused by a situation involving words like rape?
Discussing humour in the past, I've noticed a very sharp division on the issue based on age. Of course there are exceptions but it does seem to be something that younger people have a much easier time accepting than older people who are often uncomfortable with or even genuinely baffled by such forms of humour.
Also feel free to turn this into a general "theory of humour" thread. Can't be bothered typing it up in full right now, but I'm increasingly drawn to the theory that it's a coping mechanism that kicks in to help you deal with certain cynical or nonsensical events in the world- more detail on that later, perhaps.
                                                                              
When I was a teenager older people were offended by National Lampoon, Monty Python etc. Many years after the sarcastic humour of the Saturday Night Live shows, we had Howard Stern on the radio. People were tuned in to his morning shows everyday. People on subways with headphones, office workers, people driving to work etc,   Stern developed a mentality in a young generation of people and attracted perverts of all ages with his style of humour. He was taking the sarcastic style of the comics from the 70's and adding a much more foul, sensless and cruel type of humour. Laughing at death. He seemed to have an influence over comics regarding their practices. Don Rickles in the early 60's would perhaps point out a lady in the audience stating she looked like an old beaver in heat. Or as being Jewish himself and picking on Jewish men in the audience telling  that they had a hook nose sucking up their lip.

He was shocking and daring and most people would make a point of getting loaded just to see this guy put people on the spot. Stern adapted this routine in some ways....however, he was more childlike and foul. Stern had this attitude like......Who cares what we laugh at....rape, death, etc. He influenced a huge percentage of the youth and helped people along to feeling gratified by this crap.
With Rickles, all you had to do was look at his face to laugh. But, with Stern there was this air of resentment and anger in the humour. I started noticing comics at the Comedy Club in Atlantic City copping his role. Oh well, sorry to go off thread . 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 00:42
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

 
Bob Saget's version of The Aristocrats joke, which he will generally do if you shout out for it, is quite an experience in this category.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 18:54
If you can laugh at yourself, then laugh along with people laughing at you, then the world is your oyster for jokes of any kind. All sublect matters can have a savage but humorous edge to it. It is dependant on the individual.
One of the "funny" things i use in a joke, is to say, that i wanted to have my mother and father for xmas dinner.....but the council wouldn't let me dig them up.
Funny....not for some...but i enjoy the darker side of humour...the close to the knuckle type..........but as i said humour is a personal taste.
Humour keeps me alive..i have seen the eyes of death, but managed to avert it through no choosing of my own.......no it wasn't suicide...................................just a bad decision that would've ended my life.........i was in primary school at the time.
So humour is my way of saying i'm alive...regardless how tasteless and upseting it may seem to others......................enjoy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 20:27

Toddler: I think you misunderstand Stern. I recommend you see his biography Private Parts to get a little closer to him.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 21:35
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

 
Bob Saget's version of The Aristocrats joke, which he will generally do if you shout out for it, is quite an experience in this category.

I was pleasantly shocked to see Saget do some material on cable that was so dark, after knowing him only from that dumbed-down sitcom I don't remember the name of. I really liked him, but I've never seen The Aristocrats joke. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 21:44
Originally posted by Ronnie Pilgrim Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

 
Bob Saget's version of The Aristocrats joke, which he will generally do if you shout out for it, is quite an experience in this category.

I was pleasantly shocked to see Saget do some material on cable that was so dark, after knowing him only from that dumbed-down sitcom I don't remember the name of. I really liked him, but I've never seen The Aristocrats joke. 

Full House?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 21:51
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by Ronnie Pilgrim Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

 
Bob Saget's version of The Aristocrats joke, which he will generally do if you shout out for it, is quite an experience in this category.

I was pleasantly shocked to see Saget do some material on cable that was so dark, after knowing him only from that dumbed-down sitcom I don't remember the name of. I really liked him, but I've never seen The Aristocrats joke. 

Full House?


Yes, I don't know if his comedy bit came before Full House or he tried to go total 180 after it.
But his stand up is vile. Bob Saget shocked me too when I first saw his stand up, it is sick LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 21:52
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by Ronnie Pilgrim Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

 
Bob Saget's version of The Aristocrats joke, which he will generally do if you shout out for it, is quite an experience in this category.

I was pleasantly shocked to see Saget do some material on cable that was so dark, after knowing him only from that dumbed-down sitcom I don't remember the name of. I really liked him, but I've never seen The Aristocrats joke. 

Full House?


Yes, I don't know if his comedy bit came before Full House or he tried to go total 180 after it.
But his stand up is vile. Bob Saget shocked me too when I first saw his stand up, it is sick LOL

Must be after, Full House always makes me say vile things too. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 21:55
If I link to the Bob Saget aristocrats joke...will I get in trouble?
Not sure, but it may violate every forum rule in about 1 minute LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 22:03
I think it's alright, just put a big warning on it that anyone who watches it deserves whatever they get.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 22:07
Aiight.


WARNING! THIS IS BOB SAGET'S VERSION OF THE ARISTOCRATS. IT IS VILE AND PROFANE, AND IM SERIOUS, SO IF YOU OPEN THIS DON'T COMPLAIN PLEASE!

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Wow, that was easily one of it not the most offensive joke I've heard. Congrats Bob.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HW4mPZmKPM


 Also it made me LOL
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 22:16
Arbitrary Filth!

And that's OK
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