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"Futilist's Lament" and "Death Warmed Up" by High Tide





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2016 at 05:47
I'm surprised that no one's mentioned Pictures of a City or Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Pt. 1 as far as King Crimson tunes go.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2016 at 07:05
This is in a Prog Lounge so I'm calling Prog Rules - if it's Prog Related, Proto Prog or vanilla rock it don't count. Tongue

So, despite having no heavy guitar riffs but some stonkingly heavy Hammond: Quatermass - Post War Saturday Echo 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2016 at 11:50
Originally posted by Nicky Nicky wrote:

Sorry to bump an old thread, but I have some really heavy and more obscure suggestions: 

This one is from 1967!! IMO - the first (doom) metal song ever, preceding Black Sabbath by three years and a lot heavier than Helter Skelter: 


This one is earlier than Sabbath as well (and as heavy as anything they've produced):


The first song of this album is pure Slayer... 15 years before Slayer: 


Very raw early doom with organs: 


This one is a very raw live recording of Floyd with Syd, again pure f*****g doom:


Last, but not least - something from Kraftwerk:


Thanks Nicky, they were great, love 'em Star.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2016 at 12:43
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by wjohnd wjohnd wrote:

 

A lot of the songs listed did indeed seem heavy at the time, but for me the likes of pibroch (no lullaby would have been my pick of JT song), stone cold crazy,
motor city, bad motor etc sound pretty light by comparison to Metallica, motorhead, venom , paradise lost, type o negative , soundgarden, pantera (etc alongside loads of other 2nd and 3rd generation bands)

OK, but the parameters were 1968-1980.  The bands you mentioned are from a different era. 

It's always easier to build upon what was done before, look how many doors Black Sabbath opened with their original album....heavy metal, death metal, etc.  Amazing debut!  

Instrumentation and amplification changed from the 1960's onward.....more advanced sound processing equipment, rack-mounted effects for guitarists etc. took the music to a higher level than guitarists could achieve with overdriven Marshall stacks. 

Given all that, it is really hard to beat "Deutsch Nepal" for sheer nightmare heaviness!  Screaming in German, distorted organ & Mellotron, torturous bass & drum.....one of my all-time favorite "Let's turn this up & chase everyone out of the party!" song selections!!  

I did all that looking for something like Sabbath only louder thing in the 90s but gave it up some time ago and would much rather listen to the original innovators. It's very also very interesting to look for Sabbath like music before Sabbath actually got going. Just in case these haven't been mentioned on the grounds of being too obvious Embarrassed....

A strange patchwork of styles and sounds from 1968 sounding strangely like Ozzy in places:


1968 again and man this must have been one heavy concert:


A beautifully erratic and meandering tune from 1969:


Heaviness with a piano, 1970:


(Yes, I do like Deutsch Nepal too Wink).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2016 at 13:30
Apart from those Sabbath/Purple tracks:
Horse - To Greet the Sun
Uriah Heep - Gipsy
Lucifer's Friend - Ride the Sky
King Crimson - Lark's Tongues in Aspic (both parts)
Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You
Pink Floyd - The Nile Song
Van der Graaf Generator - The Sleepwalkers
Soft Machine - Hibou, Anemone and Bear
Blue Öyster Cult - ME 262
Hawkwind - Damnation Alley

There are obviously some other heavy (perhaps even heavier) songs that I can't recall right now. And I purposely didn't mention that Jacula track that's obviously overdubbed (or even recorded) later.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2016 at 14:17
Originally posted by CyberDiablo CyberDiablo wrote:

Helter Skelter should be first. You know it's the first heavy metal song anyway.
It is? I'll go with Crimso's Red, thank you. As for the rest, pick it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2016 at 21:31
Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:


Originally posted by wjohnd wjohnd wrote:

 


A lot of the songs listed did indeed seem heavy at the time, but for me the likes of pibroch (no lullaby would have been my pick of JT song), stone cold crazy,

motor city, bad motor etc sound pretty light by comparison to Metallica, motorhead, venom , paradise lost, type o negative , soundgarden, pantera (etc alongside loads of other 2nd and 3rd generation bands)


OK, but the parameters were 1968-1980.  The bands you mentioned are from a different era. 

It's always easier to build upon what was done before, look how many doors Black Sabbath opened with their original album....heavy metal, death metal, etc.  Amazing debut!  

Instrumentation and amplification changed from the 1960's onward.....more advanced sound processing equipment, rack-mounted effects for guitarists etc. took the music to a higher level than guitarists could achieve with overdriven Marshall stacks. 

Given all that, it is really hard to beat "Deutsch Nepal" for sheer nightmare heaviness!  Screaming in German, distorted organ & Mellotron, torturous bass & drum.....one of my all-time favorite "Let's turn this up & chase everyone out of the party!" song selections!!  


I did all that looking for something like Sabbath only louder thing in the 90s but gave it up some time ago and would much rather listen to the original innovators. It's very also very interesting to look for Sabbath like music before Sabbath actually got going. Just in case these haven't been mentioned on the grounds of being too obvious Embarrassed....

A strange patchwork of styles and sounds from 1968 sounding strangely like Ozzy in places:


1968 again and man this must have been one heavy concert:


A beautifully erratic and meandering tune from 1969:


Heaviness with a piano, 1970:


(Yes, I do like Deutsch Nepal too Wink).


I guess if you want something like Black Sabbath (well, at least 70's Black Sabbath), but louder, the best you can do is get their 90's live album "Reunion". I actually like almost every song from it better than the original ones, for they are indeed heavier and louder.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2016 at 23:58
Originally posted by CyberDiablo CyberDiablo wrote:

Helter Skelter should be first. You know it's the first heavy metal song anyway.

Interesting, I only ever listen to Tomorrow Never Knows by the Beatles and hadn't heard that one, it's certainly an exception for them Big smile.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2016 at 14:39
Sorry if someone already mentioned these:

Judas Priest - Dissident Aggressor = The birth of Thrash
Budgie - Napoleon Bona, Pts. 1 & 2
Jethro Tull - My God
Rainbow - Stargazer


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2016 at 13:15
Always thought these guys were 'heavy' but there are so many heavy tracks  back in those days.....





Another one that always blew me away....













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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 11:51
hello, its been a looong time ago

i add

Whino Man from Frank Zappa, sure is Heavy
Sir Lord Baltimore Hellium Eye
Exciter From Judas Priest
Evil Woman from Master Apprentices and ST




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 12:15
heaviest song....

pffff... Micky for the thread win...

so heavy.. even Slayer couldn't pull it off with their cover...




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 14:28
Judas Priest...?  Seriously....?  A bunch of wimps.....

Now this is heavy.....and they actually know how to play their instruments....




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2018 at 02:48
Originally posted by Nicky Nicky wrote:

Sorry to bump an old thread, but I have some really heavy and more obscure suggestions: 

This one is from 1967!! IMO - the first (doom) metal song ever, preceding Black Sabbath by three years and a lot heavier than Helter Skelter: 


This one is earlier than Sabbath as well (and as heavy as anything they've produced):


The first song of this album is pure Slayer... 15 years before Slayer: 


Very raw early doom with organs: 


This one is a very raw live recording of Floyd with Syd, again pure f*****g doom:


Last, but not least - something from Kraftwerk:

 
Hi, can anyone remeber what band/album he was referring to in the bolded part of the quote? Ie: "The first song of this album is pure Slayer... 15 years before Slayer:", becaude that video seems to be removed from YouTube.
 
Pro tip: if you link to posts on UT, always mention what they are, as videos have the tendency to disappear.
 
I'm looking for "as heavy as possible pre Sabbath" -era stuff, and I've fround some great examples here.
 
If you come up with new examples, that would be great and very much appreciated.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2018 at 03:07
I'm answering myself here.
By using archive.org, I seem to end up with these results.
 
What about these?
 
The first song of this album is pure Slayer... 15 years before Slayer:
 
Flower Travellin Band - Satori (full album)

1968 again and man this must have been one heavy concert:
 
MC5 - I Want You Right Now 
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Flower Travellin Band - Satori (full album)

I discovered these guys on Spotify a few months ago with the Discovery Weekly generated playlist.  What a great surprise!


More heavy prog, please!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2018 at 11:35
I know that most Genesis doesn't scream heavy but I can't believe "the knife" hasn't been mentioned yet. Really?

Also, what about Pink Floyd's "the nile song?" Of course some Uriah Heep would be in there as well as the other aforementioned bands such as Black Sabbath, King Crimson, Deep Purple. Also, some Budgie. Since it goes up to 1980 you have to have "Machine Messiah" in there and Rush goes without saying too. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2018 at 11:57
Blue Oyster Cult, Motorhead, Judas Priest are other famous examples. 
Armaggedon (Germany - 1970)
Armageddon (UK- 1975)
Cargo (1972, band from the Netherlands)
High Tide
Blue Cheer
Moses (1971)
Orang Utan (1971)
Frumpy
Atalantis

and many others, I'll get back to it. :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2018 at 12:45
At the moment 10 best heavies:
1. Black Sabbath: Behind the Wall Of Sleep
2. Deep Purple: Fireball
3. Blue Cheer: Summertime Blues
4. MC5: Kick Out the Jams
5. Uriah Heep: Bird Of Prey
6. Led Zeppelin: Immigrant Song
7. Rush: Bastille Day
8. Hawkwind: Silver Machine
9. Motörhead: Motörhead
10. Cream: Tales of Brave Ulysses


Edited by Mortte - March 25 2018 at 12:46
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