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crimhead 
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 Posted: March 28 2009 at 20:15 |
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I need to hear more PT.
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Arachnid1111
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Posted: March 28 2009 at 20:34 |
 johnobvious wrote:
Tool just blends together after awhile and gets boring. I was heavily into them after Aenima but when Lateralus came out, it just became apparent that they were making the same album over and over. Didn't even bother with 10,000. A lot of people slamming PT on here when most of you would give an arm to have half the talent of SW. Maybe I overstated and honestly no opinions are going to be changed here. If you like Tool, more power to ya. I don't listen to them anymore where as PT I find to be one of my favorites.
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Understandable. Iguess different things for different people, so its all good 
I just see it as the opposite, but hey, thats my frame of reference
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topofsm
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Posted: March 28 2009 at 23:30 |
^Yeah I know. To me, almost all their songs have a unique identity. Each song has different dynamic usages, different time signatures, different vocal usages, and the members of Tool seem to give each song an identity. When I look at Lateralus, first there's the hard hitting yet intricate "The Grudge", followed by the short ambient drone of "Eon Blue Apocalypse", followed by "The Patient", which is soft and solemn, and after that you get "Mantra", a haunting soundscape, and after that the rhythmically complex yet mesmerizing and beautiful "Schism", followed by "Parabol/Parabola" which is a calming and quiet track which suddenly explodes into an energetic rocker. That's just a few songs that each give me a different connotation.
When I listen to FoaBP, the songs retain mostly the same mood and atmosphere the whole time, and with the exception of "Anesthetize", there's not not much change, even from song to song.
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TalmLikeABalm
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Posted: March 29 2009 at 02:17 |
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Both in my top 5, but I'm gonna have to go with porcupine tree. Tool's had 3 amazing albums vs porcupine tree's 5 + some awesome EPs.
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toolis
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Posted: March 29 2009 at 04:01 |
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i think that the fact PT were influenced by Tool in their last 3 LPs says a lot...
TOOL RULE!!!
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Hercules
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Posted: March 29 2009 at 06:48 |
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Tool are dull as ditchwater; nothing offends me, but nothing really does anything for me either. I've heard it all before, sometimes by themselves as they are rather repetitive, but often done rather better by others.
PT are pretty good - not in the top class but a perfectly decent listen.
Edited by Hercules - March 29 2009 at 06:49
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b_olariu
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Posted: March 29 2009 at 07:22 |
O my god  none of them I can't stand this two bands
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bananorange
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Posted: March 29 2009 at 10:26 |
Look they're both great bands. even though I'm new here I'm pretty damn sure Tool is not "too deep" for anyone here. That is in my opinion a terrible argument...Go listen to 10,000 days and tell me it's not trying to be Lateralus. It's true Steven Wilson does use the same riff alot, but tell me what is wrong with that? It's not "progressive" enough for you? The respect Toolget's is for the 2 GREAT albums they have put out. The difference between the 2 is that if you ask people to rank PT from best to worst you will have answers ranging from 1 end of the spectrum to the other, whereas Tool barring a few exception will have Lateralus and Aenima stapled to the top. Also I'm pretty sure Tool's time on MTV really helped them get appreciated outside of "prog circles".
All this being said Tool may be my 2nd favourite band of all time but when I want to listen to an album I only choose between 2. Whereas PT I'll choose between 5 or 6 discouting one's which are not considered albums i.e. Staircase Infinities.
I cannot deny Tool's musicianship, creativity or popularity but to me this music is not the equivalent of splitting the Atom as some may have you believe.
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: March 29 2009 at 18:54 |
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I own every album by both bands and probably will continue to purchase any new material. This is a hard choice. The 2 bands have arguably the 2 best current drummers in the world. I love Colin Edwins jazzy fingerstyle bass licks as much as Justins complex pick use.I love both Maynard and Stevens vocals as well as there respective side projects. Imo the thing that will sway me to vote PT is I prefer Steven Wilsons guitar playing over Adam Jones. His more melodic and acoustic use is superior to Adams more distorted grunge licks. Add in Barbieri's keys and there is the icing.
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Dim
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Posted: March 29 2009 at 19:22 |
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Tool because Porcupine tree hasnt quite made anything up to par with Lateralus. I really like both bands though, but Tool is just something else!
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pskunk119
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Posted: March 30 2009 at 21:04 |
I like Tool. I love Porcupine Tree.
Danny Carey is great. Gavin Harrison is unparalled.
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barney63
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 02:44 |
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Tool v good but I can't distinguish one album from the next. PT for me - much more variety.
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mono
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 11:35 |
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I voted for the most varied, the most original (IMO), Porcupine Tree
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JLocke
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 11:50 |
CryoftheCarrots wrote:
I own every album by both bands and probably will continue to purchase any new material. This is a hard choice. The 2 bands have arguably the 2 best current drummers in the world. I love Colin Edwins jazzy fingerstyle bass licks as much as Justins complex pick use.I love both Maynard and Stevens vocals as well as there respective side projects. Imo the thing that will sway me to vote PT is I prefer Steven Wilsons guitar playing over Adam Jones. His more melodic and acoustic use is superior to Adams more distorted grunge licks. Add in Barbieri's keys and there is the icing. |
I guess I can see your point. The reason for my choice is also for the Guitar playing, I believe. I prefer Adam Jones' guitar playing over Steve Wilson's because while great Acoustic and Gilmour-esque Electric Guitar is great, it's been done before. Jones does things with his instrument that I haven't heard anywhere else before.
But I agree about the drummers. I would be blessed if either one of those guys played even one note for me.
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JLocke
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 11:52 |
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lol, I just noticed your Sn. How can you not choose Tool in this poll when you have a screenname taken straight out of a Maynrd skit? lmao.
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 18:51 |
p0mt3 wrote:
lol, I just noticed your Sn. How can you not choose Tool in this poll when you have a screenname taken straight out of a Maynrd skit? lmao. |
Yeh but see which album it comes from.The hugely underated Undertow! I think of all Tools albums that one has the most melodic playing of all by Adam. SW does the grunge stuff equally as good as his Gilmore style riffing. IMO
I love both bands just that when I first joined here, Tool were it for me.
Edited by CryoftheCarrots - March 31 2009 at 18:55
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Doomcifer
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 19:48 |
TOOL by lightyears ahead of PT. C'maaan now!!! 
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 19:51 |
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"There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about"
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topofsm
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 20:03 |
So Tool fans are voting because Tool is more original and Porcupine Tree tends to sound the same after a while...
And Porcupine Tree fans are voting because Porcupine Tree is more original and Tool tends to sound the same after a while...
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Pezmerga
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Posted: April 01 2009 at 03:24 |
PT for me! I broke the tie...for now.
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