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laplace ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 06 2005 Location: popupControl(); Status: Offline Points: 7606 |
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Now, if I was convinced that "prog rock" was truly everything listed in these archives, then I'd have to name Protest the Hero's "Fortress" as the genre's lowlight - but I am not that deluded. ;P Instead, my vote's for Marillion's "Fugazi", doubly disappointing for being such a drab, predictable album by the band who were meant to be *thee* revivalists.
ah, that's a shame, I've enjoyed everything I've heard by Thinking Plague and always thought that, of all the american Draky/Kermanish bands, they were one of the ones who least suffered from painful elaboration... |
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faceofdoomness ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 23 2008 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 153 |
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:B I was merely providing an example of how wide my range of musical taste is... I love Disco Volante as well as other Mr. Bungle releases as well as a crapload of other subgenres of the ever growing progressive rock.... scene? Well, from a quick read through of this thread I have a list of albums or bands that were considerd to be the worst from you guys. Torman Maxt (the most suggested... now I'm really curious to know how they sound like. It'll be really ironic if I found this album to be even enjoyable seeing as how people dismiss their album!) Little Tragedies (even the name somewhat suggest that listening to them will result in little tragedies of my ear drums crying. Strange that their albums have somewhat of a good rating. But never judge a book by the cover as many would say.) Apollo's Apollo (as I look at their band picture I can't help my self but chuckle... they look ridiculously silly and uncomforatble in those costumes. <( O)-(O )> ) and Fleur de Lis's Facing Morning. In a way I feel excited for some reason to be venturing on to the ugly sides of progressive rock and it feels like it may be a bit of good ear training for any future albums that I may listen to that may be terrible. When such a record comes, I shall be ready for it. >:{D Of course I shall have to check out Calling All Stations by Genesis and the infamous Love Beach by Emerson Lake and Palmer. And perhaps I should checkout some of Rush's albums that cames out in the nineties (my friends say those are some of the wort prog that they have heard... but we'll see) If I am to come back from the journey alive, afterwards I shall listen to nothing but the good stuff.. or what I consider to be the good stuff. Hopefully my ears won't be too dead from their traumatizing experiences. Also others may proceed to continue to suggest to me (in their opinion with a valid reason) the wosrt/ horiffic progressive band/ album ever. As for the ones I skipped, I shall check them out later. Especially Ayreon. Only heard their Human Equations album. |
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
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Just a quick comment on a couple of the points you made in the above post... Neither Micky nor I said that Little Tragedies are objectively bad - just that they aren't our cup of tea. Yes, they are instrumentally proficient and all that, and their album will send lovers of retro-symph prog into fits of swooning delight... The trouble is, the kind of music they produce is, to our ears, trite, hackneyed, and way too long-winded. On the other hand, I love The Mars Volta, and found their latest release very enjoyable (though far from perfect), while there are people on this board who hate their very name.
As regards '90s Rush, I do enjoy those albums quite a lot, and gave 5 stars to Counterparts (possibly my favourite album by them). I would even be so bold as to say that I prefer latter-day Rush to what they did in the Seventies. That said, their '90s output is not really prog as we mean it, with some remarkable exceptions (namely their instrumental tracks) - so, if you expect those albums to sound like A Farewell to Kings, you'll be sorely disappointed. |
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b_olariu ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5536 |
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Anything with Mars Volta or Porcupine Tree makes me run like hell, two of the worst bands i ever come across, desaster all the way. Specialy De loused.... from Mars and In dementia from Porcupine are for me real bad albums with nothing to offer.
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faceofdoomness ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 23 2008 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 153 |
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That's the impression I kinda got off of when I read few of the comment regarding Little Tragedies... but perhaps I should have read those posts a bit more clearly or read them when I'm in a better state-of-mind. (I hate being tired. >:[ ) But didn't mean to sound like as if I was already criticizing them for their bad sound just because I thought that people told me that they were absolutely terrible... hmm I guess a thread name change is in order... in a way. :P Also I love the Mars Volta, and also found their newer release to be a bit lacking but still energetically refurbished... in my opinion. As for Rush, I like their counterparts album.. when I was speaking about the Rush of the 90's I was more reffering to their Vapor Trails release which supposedly is their worst but I have yet to listen to it along with Test for Echo and (though not really 90s) Presto, Hold Your Fire, Roll the Bones and Power Windows. And lets please refrain from bashing specific bands that many people may really like. (I like Porcupine Tree too by the way... I like their Fear of a Blank Planet release though) of course without a strong... reinforcement of such bashings? I dunno... I may not be a mod but I can still at least try to lessen any possible conflicts in this thread. Perhaps go a bit less on the blunt comments... right? |
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Rocktopus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 4202 |
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I got a little carried away. Its far from one of the worst albums of prog I know. Very far. I'm just not very fond of In this Life, and find most of the tracks totally unmemorable for the same reasons as Plainview. But Moonsongs, is which I mentioned is here. Still great but when I got this, I already had it on two other albums (but it seems my preferred version actually appeared here first. Oops). I prefer 5'uu's, especially Regarding Purgatories to most of Thinking Plague. |
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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Ha! In Absentia would probably be in my top 20 of all time! ![]() I dont think I've heard any really terrible prog albums, but I guess everything I've heard by Dream Theater, I would describe as predictable and uninspired, but not 'horrifically bad' by any means. |
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Bunburyist ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: October 27 2008 Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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Warse pwog wobblay be QUASAR -LORELI.
Tis beyund debate, Jimmehs.
(List ter dis an' yew gits aw' th' cliches plus sum troolay 'ginormouslay 'orrendoously mellerdramaterk skirt-singin'.)
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Dutch label SYM-INFO pit oot sum reel champion gubbins pwog ban's innae '80s.
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Plaise note: Wallace, Prince o' Eagles informs yews dis WIFFOOT ewer huvin' 'eeard ainny Mars Volter.
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b_olariu ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5536 |
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Newbi, in what language do you wrote here, or is a new one and I'm behind with the news
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b_olariu ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5536 |
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Whatever you say newbie, i guess you listened to much Magma , sorry if I'm rude
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b_olariu ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5536 |
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Maybe I'm the only one who gets only few words from this
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Roj ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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No b_olariu, you're not the only one, I too am confused. What a load of gobbledegook nonsense. The best bet might to be ignore it and he might go away
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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funny, I understand every word.
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What?
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Alberto Muņoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Maybe Should open a horrifically bad writing thread...
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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Well maybe I'm exaggerating, I haven't heard it in quite a while. But lappy isn't annoyed by any level of repetition so we are coming from different perspectives. But yes, 5uu's is much better, which is funny since 5uu's don't have a very high reputation in the RIO Room. Or at least the RIO Room's surviving members.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Alberto Muņoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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I agree with Mike in this one
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37188 |
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Regarding Purgatories is excellent, though I'm rather more of a James Grigsby fan than Dave Kerman. I really like Motor Totemist Guild, but U Totem still was more revelatory for me than 5UU's and Motor Totemist Guild. I like Thinking Plague the most for A History of Madness. I think it's excellent, and I much prefer it to In Extremis (that was a disappointment for me). |
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Jimbo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 28 2005 Location: Helsinki Status: Offline Points: 2818 |
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I don't remember hearing any horrifically bad prog albums (lucky me, I guess), but I've had the disprivilege of hearing plenty of unmemorable, tame,
insipid albums that fail to trigger any kind of emotional response from
me. As far as I'm concerned, that's a crime far more serious than just being 'bad'.
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Vibrationbaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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![]() Edited by Vibrationbaby - October 29 2008 at 02:50 |
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mystic fred ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 13 2006 Location: Londinium Status: Offline Points: 4252 |
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a bit surprised to see "Mars Volta" and "Porcupine Tree" cited as bad Prog - i would say bad prog would be a band that musically and stylistically took everything from existing works but added nothing of their own (there are hundreds of bands on PA which have done this and seem to have got away with it) - the aforementioned bands are certainly not guilty of this, as their unique style and creativity have even developed into a unique style of their own, even breeding a new generation of copyists!
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