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Dim
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Posted: June 25 2007 at 11:31 |
^ Same!
I think it would be pretty cool to really have a lochness monster or bigfoot or something.
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darkmatter
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Posted: June 25 2007 at 11:35 |
I don't believe in any of them.
But telekinesis would be cool....
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Zitro
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Posted: June 25 2007 at 12:48 |
I'm with Logos, "I want to believe". But I'm still not entirely convinced. I still voted for ET though. I actually had a (UFN) experience though (Unidentified flying noise) , and it was not just a night terror. I was laying awake trying to get to sleep when i notice I start hearing a low-volume kind of sustained pitch with minor variations about on top of me. I turned off the ceiling fan and tried to rule it out but I noticed that the sound source was moving from one side to the other (while staying at an elevation) and the volume of it increased when it was more overhead. Meanwhile, a dog was barking like CRAZY, and noticed the pattern that when the noise was more overhead, it was when the dog barked the most. I didn't try to go outside and take a look until it was too late and didn't notice anything and the noise was gone and the dog started barking. Note: My parents woke up due to the dog. They too noticed the dog stopped barking shortly before we went outside, so it's not in my mind. Just a little "unexplained" story that still doesn't necessarily mean that it was a Alien-related UFO
Edited by Zitro - June 25 2007 at 17:05
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Leningrad
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 21:13 |
darqdean wrote:
That's better, no one believes in ELP anymore |
Yeah, they've become an urban legend, just like global warming and AIDS.
On topic, I'd have to say Ghosts and Aliens. Come on, with a universe like ours, there's got to be SOMETHING out there.
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Peter
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 23:33 |
Chameleon wrote:
darqdean wrote:
That's better, no one believes in ELP anymore |
Yeah, they've become an urban legend, just like global warming and AIDS.
On topic, I'd have to say Ghosts and Aliens. Come on, with a universe like ours, there's got to be SOMETHING out there. | I believe there is life (and intelligent life), on other planets, too. But the poll choice is for "extraterrestrials visiting us," not for the mere existence of extraterrestrials. I believe interstellar travel by living beings to be impossible, because of the unimaginably huge distances (and thus trip times) involved. I also think that if aliens were able to come here, they'd make themselves well known, and not just sneak around making weird patterns in fields, and anally-probing rednecks.
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Peter
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 23:42 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
^ Same!
I think it would be pretty cool to really have a lochness monster or bigfoot or something. | Well yeah, I suppose it would be cool -- but the "secret" (undocumented by science) existence of animals that big is just total BS. Loch Ness monsters and bigfoot are 99.9999999999999999999% impossible. Shall i explain why, again?
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 00:14 |
None of the above, although... Dowsing... Anenome With Copper Tongue is an album I want to hear. I don't believe in any of the above and as Peter rightly says, I find it's mainly those who believe in God who believe in them (not strictly true, mind you). As we've never been to the Moon (controversial!), then I do not believe other life forms have visited Earth. I do believe in other life forms however, it makes no sense whatsoever why only the Earth has life forms on it. I just do not believe they have the intelligence or technology to get here. We cannot get there, so how would they get here? Ghosts make no sense either... they would have shown themselves by now (like God would have too, by the way). Why hide away and be all sppoky? I think it might (that's a big might) be possible to somehow have telekinetic powers in the future, but not now. To be honest, I doubt we ever will. It's a pipedream of mine. Astrology... yuck. Surely if they want to remove Pluto (a recently discovered non-planet) as a planet, then surely it'll screw up Astrology? That's why it's rubbish. You cannot just add and remove planets and change how Astrology works. Foreseeing the future... well... my diary says I have something planned for a certain date, but that doesn't mean it will happen. Fate is fate. You cannot predict anything... oh wait, yes you can. You can predict the next DT album won't be to my taste!
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bhikkhu
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 00:47 |
Extraterrestrials is not necessarily paranormal. The existence of life on other planets is quite likely.The other stuff is just delusion.
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Chus
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 00:49 |
I saw a program on the Discovery Channel that said Bush was a Lizard-man from another planet.
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rileydog22
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 00:54 |
The probability that intelligent life exists somewhere else in the universe is basically 1. The chance that we will meet them is pretty damn close to 0.
Everything else in this poll is total bullsh*t.
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Logos
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 07:39 |
Peter wrote:
I also think that if aliens were able to come here, they'd make themselves well known, and not just sneak around making weird patterns in fields, and anally-probing rednecks. |
Not if they want to gradually take over the planet and are working with the members of a so-called syndicate that is hiding these facts from the public, and the patterns etc. are merely a distraction to keep UFO-enthusiasts' attention away from the truth. "The date is set."
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 03:38 |
clarke2001 wrote:
Astrology is one of the worst piles of rubbish ever invented by the human kind, and it should be banned by the law in all the countries. It's too bad that inquisition in the dark ages didn't made astrology extint - by using the pyres for those who had tried to earn something on poor, naive people, desperately searching for a luck in their cruel reality. |
You know, that attitude is so typical of a Libran!
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 03:41 |
Logos wrote:
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And this sums up a great deal of opinion - people want to believe in the paranormal, the supernatural, in God/s, in aliens; they want that reassurance that comes with knowledge that (to coin a cliche) we are not alone.
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Wilcey
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 03:51 |
Quite an eye opener.
I know that if some folk spoke about religion in the way they walk about some of these things that they would probably be booted from the board.
I am not suggesting bootings...far from it, but I do find it interesting that we can say
"oh yes, astrology...... load of unproven mumbo jumo" Oh, but sir, what if I believe and it brings me comfort?I can't help that I am afraid...it's all a pile'o'hogwash!
But if we replace the word astrology with the name of a recognised religion (I wont use an example...it'll get taken out of context and I will get shot) it is clearly deemed unacceptable.
I like debate, I like to hear the opinions of others, and I do find this pack/herd double standard very interesting.......
ok....... as you were chaps............
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Neil
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 04:02 |
I believe that (since brain activity is a mixture of chemical, electrical and possibly some other energy yet unknown) esp may well exist. I mean why not? We can send radio messages across the Atlantic so why not thought messages. I'm confident that this may well exist, it's just that we've never learnt to use it.
As for religion, I'll say it then; Religion is simply a control structure allowing the intelligent to subjugate the lesser elightened masses. Anyone who believes otherwise is sadly deluded. (Ducks and covers).
Edited by Heavyfreight - June 28 2007 at 04:02
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When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 08:04 |
prog-chick wrote:
Quite an eye opener.
I know that if some folk spoke about religion in the way they walk about some of these things that they would probably be booted from the board.
I am not suggesting bootings...far from it, but I do find it interesting that we can say
"oh yes, astrology...... load of unproven mumbo jumo" Oh, but sir, what if I believe and it brings me comfort?I can't help that I am afraid...it's all a pile'o'hogwash!
But if we replace the word astrology with the name of a recognised religion (I wont use an example...it'll get taken out of context and I will get shot) it is clearly deemed unacceptable.
I like debate, I like to hear the opinions of others, and I do find this pack/herd double standard very interesting.......
ok....... as you were chaps............ |
An excellent point and very true.
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Peter
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 08:10 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 10:03 |
Peter wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
prog-chick wrote:
Quite an eye opener.
I know that if some folk spoke about religion in the way they walk about some of these things that they would probably be booted from the board.
I am not suggesting bootings...far from it, but I do find it interesting that we can say
"oh yes, astrology...... load of unproven mumbo jumo" Oh, but sir, what if I believe and it brings me comfort?I can't help that I am afraid...it's all a pile'o'hogwash!
But if we replace the word astrology with the name of a recognised religion (I wont use an example...it'll get taken out of context and I will get shot) it is clearly deemed unacceptable.
I like debate, I like to hear the opinions of others, and I do find this pack/herd double standard very interesting.......
ok....... as you were chaps............ |
An excellent point and very true. | But, as astrology is NOT in fact a recognized religion..... |
It's recognised by those that believe in it. There are some 'recognised' religions that dont 'recognise' other 'recognised' religions. Oh Lord, I'm starting to sound like Donald Rumsfeld..
I think the point being that although Astrology is perhaps not a religion as such, it's a belief system that is no doubt sacred to some people. The same goes for Scientology, which in the eyes of it's followers IS a religion. Few people around here would give Scientology the time of day - myself included - but some would potentially be upset about knocking peoples faith in 'organised' or 'recognised' religions. .
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Dean
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 10:16 |
Blacksword wrote:
Peter wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
prog-chick wrote:
Quite an eye opener.
I know that if some folk spoke about religion in the way they walk about some of these things that they would probably be booted from the board. I am not suggesting bootings...far from it, but I do find it interesting that we can say "oh yes, astrology...... load of unproven mumbo jumo" Oh, but sir, what if I believe and it brings me comfort?I can't help that I am afraid...it's all a pile'o'hogwash!
But if we replace the word astrology with the name of a recognised religion (I wont use an example...it'll get taken out of context and I will get shot) it is clearly deemed unacceptable.
I like debate, I like to hear the opinions of others, and I do find this pack/herd double standard very interesting.......
ok....... as you were chaps............ |
An excellent point and very true. | But, as astrology is NOT in fact a recognized religion..... |
It's recognised by those that believe in it. There are some 'recognised' religions that dont 'recognise' other 'recognised' religions. Oh Lord, I'm starting to sound like Donald Rumsfeld..
I think the point being that although Astrology is perhaps not a religion as such, it's a belief system that is no doubt sacred to some people. The same goes for Scientology, which in the eyes of it's followers IS a religion. Few people around here would give Scientology the time of day - myself included - but some would potentially be upset about knocking peoples faith in 'organised' or 'recognised' religions. . |
PC never said it was a religion, or even a belief system. She was making a point about the way it was being offhandedly dismissed in this thread.
Edited by darqdean - June 28 2007 at 10:16
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rileydog22
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 12:45 |
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