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More about Grunge:

"Grunge

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Grunge (sometimes referred to as the Seattle sound) is an alternative rock genre and subculture that emerged during the mid-1980s in the American Pacific Northwest state of Washington, particularly in Seattle and nearby towns. Grunge fuses elements of punk rock and heavy metal, but without punk's structure and speed.[2] The genre featured the distorted electric guitar sound used in both genres, although some bands performed with more emphasis on one or the other. Like these genres, grunge typically uses electric guitar, bass guitar, drums and vocals. Grunge also incorporates influences from indie rock bands such as Sonic Youth. Lyrics are typically angst-filled and introspective, often addressing themes such as social alienation, self-doubt, abuse, neglect, betrayal, social and emotional isolation, psychological trauma and a desire for freedom.[5][6]"   

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^ and why do we need two superbasic posts about grunge that pretty much says the same thing? So grunge is a form of rock that typically uses electric guitar, bass guitar, drums and has vocals.

...also "All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much, much thicker in the middle, and then thin again at the far end."
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^ and why do we need two superbasic posts about grunge that pretty much says the same thing? So grunge is a form of rock that typically uses electric guitar, bass guitar, drums and has vocals.

...also "All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much, much thicker in the middle, and then thin again at the far end."

I wouldn't say, they say the same things, and they're from different sources, which is important when discussing the existence and character of Grunge. 


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here goes.  I wish to stress this is not in any kind of order:

Chumbawamba     -  Anarchy
Adam Ant                -  Manners and Physique
Adam Ant                -  Wonderful
Roxette                    -  Crash! Boom! Bang!
Paul Roland             -  Gargoyles 
Levellers                  -  Levelling the Land
Current 93               -  All the Pretty Little Horses 
Alanis Morisette     -  Jagged Little Pill
Sophie B Hawkins  -  Tongues and Tails
Enigma                     - MCMXC ad
Al Stewart               -  Between the Wars
Blur                           -  Parklife
Art of Noise            -  The Seduction of Claude Debussy
Rage                         -  Linguir Mortis
Death in June         -  Take Care and Control 
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^ and why do we need two superbasic posts about grunge that pretty much says the same thing? So grunge is a form of rock that typically uses electric guitar, bass guitar, drums and has vocals.

...also "All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much, much thicker in the middle, and then thin again at the far end."

I wouldn't say, they say the same things, and they're from different sources, which is important when discussing the existence and character of Grunge. 
I've thought this would be good as a little theme in this thread, and as a follow up to some discussion in the Punk thread, if you haven't seen it. Smile 


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^I think I've even contributed to it. It won't change my mind as to whether I think simply copying and pasting a basic wikipedia (or something similar) articles about a genre without some kind of angle to it - is a good basis for a(ny) discussion. Having a personal opinion of sorts that's written in your own words  - will give you a much more fruitful response than the one you got from me.
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AllMusic about Grunge:
Using the sludgy, murky sound of the Stooges and Black Sabbath as a foundation, Grunge was a hybrid of heavy metal and punk. Though the guitars were straight from early '70s metal, the aesthetic of grunge was far from metal. Both the lyrical approach and musical attack of grunge were adopted from punk, particularly the independent ideals of early '80s American hardcore. The first wave of grunge bands -- Green River, Mudhoney, Soundgarden -- were heavier than the second, which began with Nirvana. Nirvana was more melodic than their predecessors and they also had signature stop-start dynamics, which became a genre convention nearly as recognizable as fuzzy, distorted guitars. After Nirvana crossed over into the mainstream, grunge lost many of its independent and punk connections and became the most popular style of hard rock in the '90s."

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I don't think anyone needs to be explained what grunge is. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I don't think anyone needs to be explained what grunge is. 
Nope, I suppose I should have spelled it out as clearly as you do because David_D just won't quit. Anyway:

Rock music is a broad genre of popular music that originated as "rock and roll" in the United States in the late 1940s and early 1950s, developing into a range of different styles in the mid-1960s and later, particularly in the United States and the United Kingdom.

Now let us discuss this "rock" thing!
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Now let us discuss this "rock" thing!

Even worse, what is pop music? LOL
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vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.
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Okay, friends, we look differently at it. Wink
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I could've listed many more, but these are the first fifteen that come to mind.....

BAD COMPANY - Holy Water (1990)
BLACK SABBATH - Tyr (1990)
ENYA - Shepherd Moons (1991)
ROBERT FOX - Blue Mountain Suite (1993)
GLENN FREY - Strange Weather (1992)
BILLY JOEL - River of Dreams (1993)
ELTON JOHN - The One (1992)
MADONNA - Ray of Light (1998)
NIGHTWISH - Oceanborn (1998)
ANDY PICKFORD - Replicant (1993)
PREFAB SPROUT - Jordan: The Comeback (1990)
CHRIS REA - La Passione (1996)
BEKKI WILLIAMS - Elysian Fields (1996)
DAVID WRIGHT - Dissimilar Views (1995)
NEIL YOUNG - Harvest Moon (1992)
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Thank you very much, Paul. I know, this kind of list is not easy for you if it's not an A-Z list - which of course is difficult itself. Thumbs Up








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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Thank you very much, Paul. I know, this kind of list is not easy for you if it's not an A-Z list - which of course is difficult itself. Thumbs Up

Maybe I should have made it an A-Z list, then I could've included another ten albums in my list. Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Now let us discuss this "rock" thing!

Even worse, what is pop music? LOL
Bucks Fizz is pop music in both senses - it's the name of a pop band and it's also fizzy pop. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Thank you very much, Paul. I know, this kind of list is not easy for you if it's not an A-Z list - which of course is difficult itself. Thumbs Up

Maybe I should have made it an A-Z list, then I could've included another ten albums in my list. Smile

You're always welcome, as you know. Big smile 


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Would anybody else like to tell about their fave non-Prog albums from the 90's?
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Some great lyrics:

Moloko - "Where Is the What if the What Is in Why?"  (excerpt)

What is a god of phoney creation,
Where am I going with no destination,
What if the fish came from the sea,
What if my lover made me feel free,
What if my intake caused revelation,
What if the point was reincarnation,
What if my shoes don't match my jacket,
If it's not working why don't you smack it,
(from the album Do You Like My Tight Sweater? (1995))


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I missed posting when this came up earlier this year. I loves the 90s for music. So much. Here are 15 of my favorites in a random order.


The Eels - Electro-Shock Blues (1998)
Leftfield - Leftism (1995)
Tribe After Tribe - Love Under Will (1993)
The Black Crowes - The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion (1992)
Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space (1997)
Pearl Jam - Ten (1991)
Sugar - Copper Blue (1992)
Afghan Whigs - 1965 (1998)
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream (1993)
Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual (1990)
Faith No More - Angel Dust (1992)
Kyuss - Blues for the Red Sun (1992)
Masters of Reality - Sunrise on the Sufferbus (1992)
Primal Scream - Vanishing Point (1997)
Blind Melon - Blind Melon (1992)
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