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Poll Question: What one is your favorite?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:19
Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Brain Salad Surgery is my obvious choice here, but I do maintain that Love Beach isn't entirely as bad as some people make it out to be. There are serious duds on it of course (The Gambler being the biggest example imo), but most of the record is just decent, inoffensive pop rock with a few prog touches. Plus, some of the piano sections in the Memoirs suite are quite beautiful.

If anything, In the Hot Seat is the band's real rock bottom as far as I'm concerned Smile

Also, Brain Salad Surgery is not even my favorite ELP LOL
WHAT ??? That's the ONLY good song from side one. The rest of side one is 'EXTREMELY' offensive. And I'm a massive ELP fan. I mean really..."climb on my rocket and we'll fly" ? Sick
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rick1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:32
I think Canario is excellent and it's a shame it was never played live.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:42
^Oops, forgot about that one. Yup it's the best off side one.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VianaProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 08:11
Of course Brain Salad Surgery, which probably the best, or at least the most balanced studio album of them. However I also think that Love Beach isn't as bad as many consider. For instance, Works II is worse.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 08:56
Given that it's a spill tray, a table scraps, a leftover meal if you will of ELP tunes I really don't think we could expect anything less out of this album. Although...even a meal of leftovers might have a nice bite or two to it. Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rednight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:54
You're putting me on. A good April Fool's entry. BSS.
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This has got to be a wind up, right?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:59
Love Beach has some decent if cheesy pop songs, but that is not what we are interested in as proggers, is it? Memoirs shows some serious attempt at composition but it ultimately falls flat on its face. Very ungentlemanly. I suspect its votes were done in irony or a means to balance out the poll. BSS is the one in all seriousness.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:19
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Brain Salad Surgery is my obvious choice here, but I do maintain that Love Beach isn't entirely as bad as some people make it out to be. There are serious duds on it of course (The Gambler being the biggest example imo), but most of the record is just decent, inoffensive pop rock with a few prog touches. Plus, some of the piano sections in the Memoirs suite are quite beautiful.

If anything, In the Hot Seat is the band's real rock bottom as far as I'm concerned Smile

Also, Brain Salad Surgery is not even my favorite ELP LOL
WHAT ??? That's the ONLY good song from side one. The rest of side one is 'EXTREMELY' offensive. And I'm a massive ELP fan. I mean really..."climb on my rocket and we'll fly" ? Sick

That reminds me: Has any band (prog or otherwise) covered "Taste of My Love"? LOL

Oh, you look so hungry, woman
How come you strayed in here
With your eyes so bright
On this long hot night

Could it be for a taste of my love

Down on your knees
With your face to the wall
Saying please, please, please
My friend said I should call

Well, I do feel lonely, woman
And to tell the truth
I could use some company
So come closer to me

Help yourself to a taste of my love

Call up room service
Order peaches and cream
I like my dessert first
If you know what I mean

Yeah, taste it, taste it, taste it
Around the maze of pleasure
To the gates of pain
You're driving me insane

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:20
Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Also, Brain Salad Surgery is not even my favorite ELP LOL

I bet it's Tarkus, though I'll be delighted if you say it's the debut. Wink

It is Tarkus (despite a few questionable songs on side B), although the debut is my second favorite Big smile And then BSS and Trilogy are fighting for the third spot after that

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:48
Inspired by this poll, for the first time I gave two songs from Love Beach a try, namely Canario and Memoirs... Canario is listenable but I'm not particularly keen on it. Memoirs is rather good if somewhat too long for the substance. Given that people say the others are far worse, I'm not really motivated to listen to the rest, although at least listening to these two wasn't exactly an ordeal.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Brain Salad Surgery is my obvious choice here, but I do maintain that Love Beach isn't entirely as bad as some people make it out to be. There are serious duds on it of course (The Gambler being the biggest example imo), but most of the record is just decent, inoffensive pop rock with a few prog touches. Plus, some of the piano sections in the Memoirs suite are quite beautiful.

If anything, In the Hot Seat is the band's real rock bottom as far as I'm concerned Smile

Also, Brain Salad Surgery is not even my favorite ELP LOL
WHAT ??? That's the ONLY good song from side one. The rest of side one is 'EXTREMELY' offensive. And I'm a massive ELP fan. I mean really..."climb on my rocket and we'll fly" ? Sick


That reminds me: Has any band (prog or otherwise) covered "Taste of My Love"? LOL

<p ="b_paractl" style="border: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-spacing: 0px; list-style: none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; line-height: 1.5em; color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: Roboto, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Oh, you look so hungry, woman
How come you strayed in here
With your eyes so bright
On this long hot night

<p ="b_paractl" style="border: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-spacing: 0px; list-style: none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; line-height: 1.5em; color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: Roboto, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Could it be for a taste of my love

<p ="b_paractl" style="border: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-spacing: 0px; list-style: none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; line-height: 1.5em; color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: Roboto, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Down on your knees
With your face to the wall
Saying please, please, please
My friend said I should call

<p ="b_paractl" style="border: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-spacing: 0px; list-style: none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; line-height: 1.5em; color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: Roboto, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Well, I do feel lonely, woman
And to tell the truth
I could use some company
So come closer to me

<p ="b_paractl" style="border: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-spacing: 0px; list-style: none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; line-height: 1.5em; color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: Roboto, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Help yourself to a taste of my love

<p ="b_paractl" style="border: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-spacing: 0px; list-style: none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; line-height: 1.5em; color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: Roboto, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Call up room service
Order peaches and cream
I like my dessert first
If you know what I mean

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Around the maze of pleasure
To the gates of pain
You're driving me insane



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That ELP would present such lyrics isn't surprising for band that named an album Brain Salad Surgery, which refers to oral sex on a man (note the suggestive Giger album cover). I don't find the lyrics to "Taste My Love" witty or erotic, but very distasteful -- crude and problematic (doubt many feminists would appreciate them). This points to a general feeling I have about ELP generally and is a reason why I don't much like the band (I quite like the debut), and it is that I find the band vulgar.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 14:11
Shouldn't this poll be JFF? It is just for fun, isn't it?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progfan1958 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 14:21
"Brain Salad Surgery" by far for me. I even rate BSS ahead of "Close To The Edge" and "Selling England By The Pound".    I expect I'm in a minority though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mormegil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 14:39
Strange poll - it's not April 1.

Brain Salad Surgery, of course.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2021 at 15:04
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

That ELP would present such lyrics isn't surprising for band that named an album Brain Salad Surgery, which refers to oral sex on a man (note the suggestive Giger album cover). I don't find the lyrics to "Taste My Love" witty or erotic, but very distasteful -- crude and problematic (doubt many feminists would appreciate them). This points to a general feeling I have about ELP generally and is a reason why I don't much like the band (I quite like the debut), and it is that I find the band vulgar.

You nailed exactly why I think it's such a silly song: it's not witty at all. Those lyrics are nothing short of overt. As in "how many ways can I describe a sex act, without or without metaphor." Not sure why Lake and Sinfield stooped to that level. At least the title of BSS was cryptic for the time.
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