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Poll Question: Which three are your favorites?
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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

  Also noticed a coincidence in that Bonny is next to Bedlam here, lyrics to Tom O’Bedlam include the line in of the chorus of “Bedlam boys are bonny.” 

That's all coincidence.  I never realized that when I put those songs up on here.  Very cool!  Thanks for pointing that out because I love things like that.

  Yeah, I got a kick out of that, too!  Smile
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I normally shop online for music, so the pandemic didn't change that but the amount of shopping increased. My Bandcamp usage increased. One of the frequent sources of music is Cuneiform Records and their $5 special they have each weekend through their shop on Bandcamp. One band (on PA) that I was introduced to was Boud Deun. A Virginia-based band formed in 1994, they released their last album, which I bought and this track is from (https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.com/album/the-stolen-bicycle), and played their last show in 1998. An instrumental quartet that could be described as part Mahavishnu Orchestra and part Dixie Dregs.

Boud Deun - Waterford

Also, toward middle of this year, I was thinking about live music. In anticipation to a possibly seeing live music, I was wondering whether there were any Richmond, Virginia-based bands, thinking a local band is more likely to produce a live show as not much comes through Richmond. (Side note: My first live show turned out to be Primus in Richmond, playing a twice-postponed show with Black Mountain opening. Great show!) Anyway, a local band found courtesy of a search was Spooky Cool. They just have one EP to their name, available on Bandcamp (https://spookycool.bandcamp.com/album/every-thing-ever). Very spooky cool indeed.

Spooky Cool - Black Wine

Finally, just discovered these ladies from Tokyo. Their first full length album was released last week. Self-described as tribal psychedelic. I posted this previously to Greg's (Logan) post one YouTube track thread last week, but it bears repeating. This is a track from their full-length album (https://kuunatic.bandcamp.com/album/gate-of-kl-na), which tells stories from the imaginary planet Kuurandia, where they reside. 

KUUNATIC - Tītián

Not on PA, but would not be surprised if they eventually make it. One of the best releases I've heard this year.
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Kees, once again, I cannot access two of yours, the first and the third.  

For Spencer Cullum, I have cover art with the same name, it is 5:41 in length.

For All Them Witches, looks like cover art, video states audio only, it is 9:51 in length.

Same, or different?  Thanks!Smile

Well Nickie, this is never going to work with us - I feel as if there's an ocean between us... Wink
The lengths you indicate are correct, so it should be OK, but to be sure (and eventually for others too:

Spencer Cullum's Coin Collection - My Protector:
For All Them Witches you probably found this yt-video, which is perfect. If this - for some - is still not working:

All Them Witches - Internet:



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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Kees, once again, I cannot access two of yours, the first and the third.  
For Spencer Cullum, I have cover art with the same name, it is 5:41 in length.
For All Them Witches, looks like cover art, video states audio only, it is 9:51 in length.
Same, or different?  Thanks!Smile
Well Nickie, this is never going to work with us - I feel as if there's an ocean between us... Wink
The lengths you indicate are correct, so it should be OK, but to be sure (and eventually for others too:
Various removed for space

LOL, thank you so much!  It's some sort of licensing thing between countries, I believe.  
Looking forward very much to hearing both!  Smile
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Here is my first take to the end of Page 1:

Christian:  The Angel “What Would You Do?”  This is a percussive start-stop-repeat kind of pattern at first, with whooms and spoken, effected vocal sounds.  Creates a lot of tension as it repeats, especially with the accompanying imagery. 

Mila:  The Comet Is Coming “Summon the Fire”  Electronic beat, then saxophone hops along for the ride, drums join in, then keyboards.  The saxophone makes the music much more “warm,” to me than perhaps another instrument would not.  The intensity gradually increases, with a sort of organ underpinning for a bit, then back to the main melody.  A brief foray into more of a discordant “noise” section, then back to the melody to an abrupt end.

Kees:  Spencer Cullum’s Coin Collection “My Protector”  Sort of a folk/bluesy singer/songwriter piece.  The vocalist is soft-spoken, sounds like a conversation he’s having in his mind, before the real conversation with the subject.  Mournful guitars and sad piano notes, with soft drums.  Sustained guitars wrongle out to the end. Interesting that he’s out of Nashville, I actually know of a few (much younger than me) prog fans there, who would likely enjoy this, too. Rozi Plain “Trouble”  Another sense of folk here, combined with prog elements of synths and blips.  Another sort of sing-songy vocal, but of a different sort than the previous. I enjoy the washy guitars and synths together.  All Them Witches “Internet”  I did listen to this once a while back, with the band name, just had to, plus they are from Nashville, where I lived for about 9 years.  Here is sort of a heavy/stoner/psych band.  Wry witticism, spoken type vocals again.  Pounds along with a harmonica solo a little in and simple, yet affected lead.  Moves back and forth between these phases for the most part.   I found myself hearing Rozi again, in my mind’s ear, while I took a short break, but All Them Witches also has merit, as I enjoy the extension of the piece you presented, with it’s dark, heavy psych bent. 

Cristi:  Guapa “Where Emperors Grow”  Driving beat with a female lead singer, kind of a dark psychedelia here.  Double lead guitars, sounds like, during the lead section?  Keeps quite a pace throughout, sounds like they’d be interesting live also.  Wear Your Wounds “Mercifully”  Begins with very spare, mournful piano.  Some depth is added with very subtle instrumentation and eventually, percussion, as the other instruments come more to the fore, then fade  after a strong swell.  This is very unhurried and absolutely gorgeous. Zopp “Before the Light” Now, this one I own, so won’t vote for it, it was one of my favourites from 2020.  Progressive rock, plenty of keyboards, instrumental prowess and unexpected twists and turns.  Of your other two, if you can’t tell, I really go for Wear Your Wounds. 
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:


1) ROBERTO VECCHIONI FEAT. ENZO JANNACCI: Luci a San Siro (Lights at Saint Siro)  Here I found one with with a painting on the cover and the word "Robinson."  Time is 4:07

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2) ROBERTO VECCHIONI: Vorrei (I would)  Here I found one that is 3:47, with the same cover and wording.

  Videos etc removed for space.  Here I have the problem again of not being able to "see" the videos. Anyone else, please if you can share what he has from a different country than the US, it would be appreciated!  Thanks!
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:


1) ROBERTO VECCHIONI FEAT. ENZO JANNACCI: Luci a San Siro (Lights at Saint Siro)  Here I found one with with a painting on the cover and the word "Robinson."  Time is 4:07

and

2) ROBERTO VECCHIONI: Vorrei (I would)  Here I found one that is 3:47, with the same cover and wording.

  Videos etc removed for space.  Here I have the problem again of not being able to "see" the videos. Anyone else, please if you can share what he has from a different country than the US, it would be appreciated!  Thanks!



Here the link to the live album where you can find Luci a San Siro and Vorrei.

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Lorenzo, I am sorry it does not.   
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I found this first interesting band VIRTA early last year and recently suggested it for entry to these forums and they are now listed in the post-rock section. I loved the jazzy proggy feel of this band. The complex turn-arounds and play with timings and electronic effects, but also with a tribute for sure to the Herbies of the day. I enjoyed this track the most from their 2016 album, “On The Run” (sorry Floyd fans not a cover)


The second group I discovered last year and wish I had found them earlier, they are a band from Texas called 2002 and hint at a new age style of music. Relaxing, pleasant and dreamy. They released a 2021 album in June this year. So, the track I chose form their latest album is “Sacred Mountain”. They have a really nice sound production. 


The third group I found are a young family bluegrass band who have been playing as a family apparently since 2017. They were originally called the Band of Kelleys but recently reformed to be called "Paper Dolls". I found this group as I was searching for progressive country music on youtube and was amazed to find the Band of Kelleys band doing a cover of Maggies Farm (Dylan). Anyhow, here is their very latest and brand new song just released last month, “Pray For Rain” by Paper Dolls





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Regarding Roberto Vecchioni, I found these alternatives, both from the same live album Camper. Hope these work on the other side of the pond:
- Roberto Vecchioni - Luci a Siro
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- Roberto Vecchioni - Vorrei

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Regarding Roberto Vecchioni, I found these alternatives, both from the same live album Camper. Hope these work on the other side of the pond:
- Roberto Vecchioni - Luci a Siro
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- Roberto Vecchioni - Vorrei
  Both work for me, Kees!  Thank you, I hope they are fine with Lorenzo, as well.  
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Listening...  *adding a good bunch of new discoveries to my list*

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TCat: I had the same reservation, and partly still have, regarding Tom Waits, but it's true that he made some wonderful music and songs, putting a lot of soul in it. I knew this song already, but it is indeed beautiful. Didn't know Bonny Light Horseman, and this sounds very American; a kind of country-folk. Great voice, subtle playing. A subdued but very evocative song. Very nice! I'm less charmed by Beautiful Bedlam. Those hard-rocky interludes are more disturbing than adding something to the song, to my taste; it sounds a bit too artificial. Can understand why one likes this though.

JD: Nuclear Bird's Tyrannical Megalomaniac doesn't sound that tyrannical. A nice hammond dominated track. I would look up and think "nice" if this was coming by on the radio, but listening to it more attentively, it lacks some pepper, originality and a really convincing voice. With Organ Explosion (now, what can we expect with such a name?) we have the hamond again, but I find this track much richer, musically speaking, with the great synth effects and a wonderful groove that are leading us through the different sections of the track. Great listen! Bijelo Dugme brings us a kind of sophisticated rock 'n roll, but it doesn't stand out for me...

I prophesy disaster: Three tracks from the Nolan Potter's Nightmare Band that serve us some kind of jazz infused chamber rock with some orchestral influences. Quite dynamic and rich, with a great mix of acoustic and electric aspects. I really like all three tracks and will check out their album. If I really have to state a preference, it might be Pity in the City, but the other two make up for a great diversity.

Lewian: The Angel deliver us an electro-beat track that is quite groovy, but remains a bit cold to me - not very captivating to my ears.

Mila: The Comet Is Coming is for me too a "pandemic discovery" (thanks to Ian/Nogbad) and I like it very much (I immediately bought their three albums... and I presented an other track in one of these polls), so yes, this is great (but already known to me)!

Snicolette: Jonathan Hultén delivers a folky/trad-like song with a very modern feeling despite a rather classical organ sound at some point. I like his singing, the melodies and the sonics of this track, quite enchanting. Musk Ox bring us a gently meandering chamber folk piece that sounds quite nice, but maybe a bit too gentle to me. What to expect from Theodor who calls himself "b*****d"? Well, he doesn't sound like one at all... A subdued tension, mixing acoustic guitars, floating vocals and atmospherics with a slow beat. Quite nice, but it doesn't top Jonathan Hultén for me.

Cristi: Gaupa grows Emperors on a kind of heavy rock terrain (including a hard rock Björk!), with pulsating rhythms and some melodic interludes. If one's a fan of the genre, this is quite good, but I'm not that much a fan. Nice to hear though. Wear Your Wounds deliver a much more meditative track. This deserves a good listen because sonically it is very rich! Nice! Very atmospheric and too short! Curious to know what the album gives... I listend to Zopp's album when it was listed in the top of the Collaborator's list of 2020. It is a great track and great music, but at the same time it gives me the impression that I've heard this all before. A bit too retro, maybe, but very pleasant.

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Cristi: Gaupa grows Emperors on a kind of heavy rock terrain (including a hard rock Björk!), with pulsating rhythms and some melodic interludes. If one's a fan of the genre, this is quite good, but I'm not that much a fan. Nice to hear though. Wear Your Wounds deliver a much more meditative track. This deserves a good listen because sonically it is very rich! Nice! Very atmospheric and too short! Curious to know what the album gives... I listend to Zopp's album when it was listed in the top of the Collaborator's list of 2020. It is a great track and great music, but at the same time it gives me the impression that I've heard this all before. A bit too retro, maybe, but very pleasant.


I enjoy the Wear Your Wounds song a lot, it's the first song, serves as an introduction for their 2019 album. The album ends with a song called Mercilessly which is basically the song Mercifully with added guitar riff and more drums. 

I didn't know what prog song to choose, I have listened to a lot of progressive metal in the last couple of years, but I know people dislike the genre, so Zopp did the trick. Embarrassed
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Mila: The Comet Is Coming is for me too a "pandemic discovery" (thanks to Ian/Nogbad) and I like it very much (I immediately bought their three albums... and I presented an other track in one of these polls), so yes, this is great (but already known to me)!


My idea was to introduce an interesting artist rather than this particular band. Shabaka has another two bands, are you aware of them? Personally I'm rather into his jazzier stuff but I thought that The Comet Is Coming would more closely fit in here.



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Of Shabaka's other bands Sons Of Kemet a favorite, I'm going to get to see them twice this year. Shabaka & the Ancestors is very good but personal tastes dictate TCIC & SOK.
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Another couple of modern jazz artists from the UK
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Snicolette: Jonathan Hultén delivers a folky/trad-like song with a very modern feeling despite a rather classical organ sound at some point. I like his singing, the melodies and the sonics of this track, quite enchanting. Musk Ox bring us a gently meandering chamber folk piece that sounds quite nice, but maybe a bit too gentle to me. What to expect from Theodor who calls himself "b*****d"? Well, he doesn't sound like one at all... A subdued tension, mixing acoustic guitars, floating vocals and atmospherics with a slow beat. Quite nice, but it doesn't top Jonathan Hultén for me.

Thank you so much for your thoughts and also for your help in locating those restricted videos. 

Yes, that Hultén was quite the surprise for me, esp considering his earlier work, which isn't a typical genre that I listen to.  He also does all of the gorgeous artwork, so quite the talented person.

Raphael Weinroth-Browne, the cellist with Musk Ox, also has a fine solo release, lots of looping and such.

Theodor b*****d, more of a group name than an individual.  I end up loving many Russian acts, it would seem.

All are available to explore on Bandcamp as well.  Also, a reminder to all, it's Bandcamp Friday today, 5 November, when all proceeds go direct to the artist.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Another couple of modern jazz artists from the UK

The Uk jazz scene is flying high atm. I'm following closely what's going on over there and am aware of both Nubya Garcia and Yazz Ahmed. The latter I was considering for this poll but then again another jazz piece seemed a bit too much to me.


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Finishing Page Two first listens today, with Christian's additions:

Christian:  Mediaeval Baebes “We Three Kings”  You know I’ll like this one, I’m a big fan of theirs.  However, I can honestly say that I’ve not heard their Christmas carol recording.  Sounds so much more like how I think Christmas carols should sound, unlike those awful modern things from the 20th century.  I am pretty sure everyone knows the tune, so will not elaborate on that, except to say that this has such a lovely, ancient feeling to it, as it is arranged, and, of course, beautifully sung.  Battlestations “Silencer”  This has a very nice, slow build to it, gradually shifting sonically with percussive elements way to the back of the mix.  Cinematic feel for me to this, it is very subtle and conveys a feeling of melancholy, yet not despair, as there is a lightness to it as well.  It would be too easy for me to like Mediaeval Baebes the most, so going for the 3rd, this time around.  

Ian:  black midi “John L”  Right in your face from the get-go (and the video, modern sorta Busby Berkeley video, fun)!  Driving sound with a spoken vocal over.  Very satirical lyrics.  Lotsa stop-starts and smacks over the head of sound.  Darrigourcq Hermia Ceccaldi “Kaiju Eats Cheeseburgers”  Cello, drums and saxophone here, avant jazz.  Drops into a contemplative portion after the initial cacophony (love what he does on the drum there, with the whirly thing), creating lots of lovely tension.  Back to the fray after that, ending on plucked cello notes.  Le Grand Sbam  “Teaser du Vaisseau Monde” Here is a Zappaesque start, thinking 200 Motels (“A Nun Suit Pained On Some Old Boxes”), with discordant female vocals, keys, lots of arfs, vibes.  I kinda like the 1-minute- in high vocal duet, then it gets a bit circus.  A bit absurdist in tone, fun to watch for it’s quirkiness.  Guess which one I like best, Ian.  ;D

Greg:  Bruno Pernadas “Spaceway 70”  Has a nice, jazz feel at the start, bass, drums and flute.  Light and airy vocals, very pleasant to hear.  Horns come in and dance with the flutes.  Really cool, tropical feel (even without the parrots). Nice squiggly synth embellishment about ½ way in. This is summer drive up the coast with the ragtop down, or make you feel warm in winter music.  Vanishing Twin “Cryonic Suspension May Save Your Life” Here we have kind of a dark sound to begin.  Stays a bit the same until almost 3 minutes in, but there are subtle changes building up to the change that happens there.  Almost a feeling of a sort of march of strange beings to me in this.  Another bit of a changeup and the music becomes a bit more pointed, then muted, dreamlike female vocal enters.  Portishead “Elysium” I quite enjoyed their Dummy release, this one I’ve not heard.  This continues with the sound that I found entrancing on Dummy, this piece is a bit “sharper,” in terms of her voice, it’s less dreamy, yet still in kind of a fog.  Halfway through it drops to just guitar, then piano, a very sinister sound, which is kind of a signature of theirs that I enjoy.  I think I will elect your first for my favourite choice, as it seems too easy for me to like a band I already like.  

Lorenzo:  Two by Roberto Vecchioni Feat. Enzo Jannacci “Luci a San Siro (Lights at Saint Siro)”  Thank you for the lyrics!  I am going to listen to the live versions that Kees was able to locate.  This is a very mournful sort of song to me, a reminiscence, delivered in a very emotive way.  Joined by another vocalist, you then realize this is a conversation between two people, who are both reflecting upon their lives.  Next is “Vorrei (I would)”  This one is just Roberto singing, very spare instrumentation, at first just guitar, then piano.  Full band treatment about a third in.  As you said, to both, there is a very intimate feel to these, music for listening to late at night when all is quiet.  Saxophone (or keys with a saxophone-type effect, it sounds like) adds another dimension.  My favourite of the two is the second.





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Points: 5986 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2021 at 17:49
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Regarding Roberto Vecchioni, I found these alternatives, both from the same live album Camper. Hope these work on the other side of the pond:
- Roberto Vecchioni - Luci a Siro
and
- Roberto Vecchioni - Vorrei

Thank you very much, Kees!
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