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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Saving my heart never bothered me. It's no heart of the sunrise but it's not a horrible song that makes me want to vomit either. Yes did different things. They stretched themselves and sometimes they went beyond the comfort zone of their fans. Good for them for putting their own musical explorations first. Smile Yes, they did prog and that was their bread and butter but like Genesis it wasn't all they did.
And the wonderful thing is, Yes still remained a post-1970's Progressive Rock band at heart, unlike Genesis. Smile
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Superb album, and it was hearing Bruford’s drum sound that convinced Anderson he should be part of the project.

It is a real shame that Union marked the end of this collaboration, because this album showed huge potential. As usual, the egos got in the way.
I've yet to hear the Union album, but I really enjoyed seeing the eight-member Yes Union tour recently, so I hope the album lives up to the promise of the tour.  Smile

I actually like some of the songs on Union. Apparently (one) of the big problems is that no one was steering the ship. With two versions of Yes & several producers involved the album was butchered in production. I remember listening to it the first time & thinking " where is Wakeman?"  It does have some good moment though. 
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^ Strangely, I didn't hear much of the distinctive Rick Wakeman keyboard sound on the ABWH album either. Ermm
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm hearing the ABWH album for the very first time today and it was an instant hit with me, despite lacking the distinctive sound of Chris Squire's thunderous bass lines. Smile

Really? Interesting. I got the album when it was new, and it was pretty exciting at the time. I still like it a lot. It's good "B+" album. The concert was outstanding! They opened with solos in lieu of group, and I got to experience Rick Wakeman's keyboard wizardry "live without a net" for the first time ever. 

The night I saw them, Tony Levin was ill. Jeff Berlin stood in!

 Me too, If your in Southern California we may have been at the same show. 
 It was either Pacific Amphitheater or Irving Meadows, I can't remember. 
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Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm hearing the ABWH album for the very first time today and it was an instant hit with me, despite lacking the distinctive sound of Chris Squire's thunderous bass lines. Smile

Really? Interesting. I got the album when it was new, and it was pretty exciting at the time. I still like it a lot. It's good "B+" album. The concert was outstanding! They opened with solos in lieu of group, and I got to experience Rick Wakeman's keyboard wizardry "live without a net" for the first time ever. 

The night I saw them, Tony Levin was ill. Jeff Berlin stood in!

 Me too, If your in Southern California we may have been at the same show. 
 It was either Pacific Amphitheater or Irving Meadows, I can't remember.

Greek Theatre! You were there, too, right? The show opened suddenly with Jon singing on the floor (surrounded by security, of course) as he walked toward the stage.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Strangely, I didn't hear much of the distinctive Rick Wakeman keyboard sound on the ABWH album either. Ermm

Have another go at "Fist of Fire"!
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Strangely, I didn't hear much of the distinctive Rick Wakeman keyboard sound on the ABWH album either. Ermm

Have another go at "Fist of Fire"!
 
Okay, will do, just as soon as I've finished watching An Evening with Yes, where Rick Wakeman is just about to perform a dazzling solo. Smile


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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm hearing the ABWH album for the very first time today and it was an instant hit with me, despite lacking the distinctive sound of Chris Squire's thunderous bass lines. Smile

Really? Interesting. I got the album when it was new, and it was pretty exciting at the time. I still like it a lot. It's good "B+" album. The concert was outstanding! They opened with solos in lieu of group, and I got to experience Rick Wakeman's keyboard wizardry "live without a net" for the first time ever. 

The night I saw them, Tony Levin was ill. Jeff Berlin stood in!

 Me too, If your in Southern California we may have been at the same show. 
 It was either Pacific Amphitheater or Irving Meadows, I can't remember.

Greek Theatre! You were there, too, right? The show opened suddenly with Jon singing on the floor (surrounded by security, of course) as he walked toward the stage. Anderson did the same thing at the show I was at. walked right passed the crowd singing.  Very cool!


 I was at the Pacific Amphitheater show in Costa Mesa , it may have been the night before the Greek theater show.


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......Heaven and Earth is better than Union, and I like Union, I just ignore the fact that 197 people tampered with the recording / mix......


Yeah, Union has the problem of too many people tampering with it, but Heaven and Earth doesn't have anything that I enjoy remotely as much as Shock to the System, I Would Have Waited Forever, or The More We Live.
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^ In that case, I'll probably make Keys to Ascension my next featured Yes album. Smile


Oh yes, but it's two albums. Yeah yeah, it could be just Keystudio, but I think Keys to Ascension is more worth it because of the live stuff... best versions of Awaken and Starship Trooper for me... and Time and a Word as well. Be the One is wonderful too, though, as well as (about half of) Mind Drive.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

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^ In that case, I'll probably make Keys to Ascension my next featured Yes album. Smile


Oh yes, but it's two albums. Yeah yeah, it could be just Keystudio, but I think Keys to Ascension is more worth it because of the live stuff... best versions of Awaken and Starship Trooper for me... and Time and a Word as well. Be the One is wonderful too, though, as well as (about half of) Mind Drive.
 
When PA members have mentioned the Keystudio album before, I wondered which Yes album they were referring to. Now I know. Smile
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

......Heaven and Earth is better than Union, and I like Union, I just ignore the fact that 197 people tampered with the recording / mix......


Yeah, Union has the problem of too many people tampering with it, but Heaven and Earth doesn't have anything that I enjoy remotely as much as Shock to the System, I Would Have Waited Forever, or The More We Live.
I agree, for all its faults I quite like Union, definitely a better album than Heaven and Earth.
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^ That does sound promising. I really like the Heaven & Earth album, so if the Union album is even better, I should be in for a treat, hopefully. Smile
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You will like it, Paul. No doubt about it. It’s actually one of my sister’s faves from the Yes clan.
Lot’s to enjoy. And for what it’s worth, it’s ‘Proggier’ than Genesis’ We Can’t Dance release.

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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

You will like it, Paul. No doubt about it. It’s actually one of my sister’s faves from the Yes clan.
Lot’s to enjoy. And for what it’s worth, it’s ‘Proggier’ than Genesis’ We Can’t Dance release.
 
Cristi gave the Union album a big thumbs down earlier in this thread, so I'll just have to Open My Eyes and ears and judge the album for myself. Smile
 
At least the Union album's been a Big Generator of Talk on this thread. I don't know whether Union will come Close to the Edge of bettering the Heaven & Earth album though. Smile


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^ In that case, I'll probably make Keys to Ascension my next featured Yes album. Smile


I think you should do Yes Remixes.
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^ In that case, I'll probably make Keys to Ascension my next featured Yes album. Smile


I think you should do Yes Remixes.
 
From what I've heard of some of the other dreadful techno remixes so far, I don't think that would be a good idea. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

You will like it, Paul. No doubt about it. It’s actually one of my sister’s faves from the Yes clan.
Lot’s to enjoy. And for what it’s worth, it’s ‘Proggier’ than Genesis’ We Can’t Dance release.
 
Cristi gave the Union album a big thumbs down earlier in this thread, so I'll just have to Open My Eyes and ears and judge the album for myself. Smile
 

Big thumbs down?! I did say it's got a few good songs (so it's an uneven album). I also said there are albums I liked even less than Union. 
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^ Okay, so I exaggerated a little. Smile
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I don’t know why I like Heaven and Earth as much as I do - maybe it’s the beautiful Dean artwork, maybe the Turquoise vinyl it’s pressed on, or Geoff Downes’ keyboards ?? Perhaps it is a light change of pace from what we all expect from Yes.
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