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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I consider Rush to be epigones, and they definitely don't
hit a nerve with me. I personally think that the Randian views of Neil
Peart reflect in the music of Rush. but I respect your opinion. if you
like Rush, fine with me. but I equally have the right not to like them


Peart definitely toned down the Objectivism over time. But the libertarian streak was still there at least through the 1990s. I disagree with those who characterize the earlier Peart lyrics as fascist, but I also disagree with the apologists who insist that any political stance in his lyrics is (incorrectly) inferred by critics.

I see Peart’s mid-1970s lyrics as reflecting a very intelligent but impressionable young man. By the mid-1980s he was more of a skeptic. But I always felt like he was stating or explaining his (or Rand’s) opinions rather than preaching them. So literally, his lyrics are often pedantic, and often clumsy.
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Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I'm sorry Unhappy, but in my opinion the music of Rush is way too "gefällig", to use a German term that is difficult to translate; it is somewhere between "smarmy" and "buddy-buddy", in a calculated way. which in my opinion explains their success

Ridiculous.

smarm·y
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  1. ingratiating and wheedling in a way that is perceived as insincere or excessive.
    "a smarmy, unctuous reply"


Rush never tried to ingratiate or wheedle in any way.  Quite the opposite.  Early on (not counting the first album), they came out with a style that ran counter to anything popular or anything that would appeal to the masses.  Their success was due to a level of integrity that overcame their running counter to popular tastes, trends, or expectations.  

Do you honestly think Caress of Steel was designed to be ingratiating?  It may be easy to say such a thing after the success of 2112, but going in, nobody could have predicted that was going to happen.  

And then, rather than following up with the formula applied in their proven success, they totally changed their sound with their next album.  And again, there's no way anybody could have predicted the success of A Farewell to Kings.  It certainly wasn't the type of album to appeal to the masses.  

And Neil Peart is one of the most sincere and genuine people ever.  

I can understand a variety of reasons people choose to not like Rush, but being ingratiating ain't one of them.  

you will note that I used the German word "gefällig", of which I said it could not be adequately translated. there is no English word that really captures the meaning of this German word. anyway, de gustibus non est disputandum. I consider Rush to be epigones, and they definitely don't hit a nerve with me. I personally think that the Randian views of Neil Peart reflect in the music of Rush. but I respect your opinion. if you like Rush, fine with me. but I equally have the right not to like them


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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I'm sorry Unhappy, but in my opinion the music of Rush is way too "gefällig", to use a German term that is difficult to translate; it is somewhere between "smarmy" and "buddy-buddy", in a calculated way. which in my opinion explains their success

Ridiculous.

smarm·y
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  1. ingratiating and wheedling in a way that is perceived as insincere or excessive.
    "a smarmy, unctuous reply"


Rush never tried to ingratiate or wheedle in any way.  Quite the opposite.  Early on (not counting the first album), they came out with a style that ran counter to anything popular or anything that would appeal to the masses.  Their success was due to a level of integrity that overcame their running counter to popular tastes, trends, or expectations.  

Do you honestly think Caress of Steel was designed to be ingratiating?  It may be easy to say such a thing after the success of 2112, but going in, nobody could have predicted that was going to happen.  

And then, rather than following up with the formula applied in their proven success, they totally changed their sound with their next album.  And again, there's no way anybody could have predicted the success of A Farewell to Kings.  It certainly wasn't the type of album to appeal to the masses.  

And Neil Peart is one of the most sincere and genuine people ever.  

I can understand a variety of reasons people choose to not like Rush, but being ingratiating ain't one of them.  
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

why should I make a blank album? (ducks)
 

I know you love "The Camera Eye"! Wink
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

no thanks, I have been exposed to the musical concoctions of Rush for a longer time than my ears can take. I honestly believe Rush are the most overrated band on this site
 

I guess what you feel towards Rush is what I feel towards Gentle Giant. LOL
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I'm sorry Unhappy, but in my opinion the music of Rush is way too "gefällig", to use a German term that is difficult to translate; it is somewhere between "smarmy" and "buddy-buddy", in a calculated way. which in my opinion explains their success


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^ You're crushing my soul Jean. Now I'm sad and I need to eat Jello. Cry
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no thanks, I have been exposed to the musical concoctions of Rush for a longer time than my ears can take. I honestly believe Rush are the most overrated band on this site


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^ Jean We're going to have a Rush intervention with you. We make you listen to Moving Pictures over and over again until you see the light. Hallelujah! LOL
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why should I make a blank album? (ducks)


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Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

1. Xanadu
2. The Spirit of Radio
3. Between the Wheels
4. Mystic Rhythms
5. The Pass
6. Dreamline
7. Earthshine
8. YYZ

Two great deep cuts there in Between the Wheels and Mystic Rhythms!
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Okay, so even though I hate doing this in less than 19 cuts (Rush has 19 original studio albums)

Fly By Night
Something for Nothing
Xanadu
The Trees

Natural Science
YYZ 
Subdivisions
Headlong Flight

But I have to add a bonus disc of all Deep Tracks/unexpected selections!

Lessons
Circumstances
Witch Hunt
Hand Over Fist

Emotion Detector
Turn the Page
Cold Fire
Driven


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1. Xanadu
2. The Spirit of Radio
3. Between the Wheels
4. Mystic Rhythms
5. The Pass
6. Dreamline
7. Earthshine
8. YYZ
Haiku

Writing a poem
With seventeen syllables
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Great, fresh idea for new thread. 

I'd prefer to be able to choose any 8 songs, though--don't like the one-per-album restriction.
 

I cheated. LOL
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Side A:
Afterimage
Losing It
Ghost of a Chance
Freewill

Side B:
Circumstances
Something for Nothing
Anthem
Here Again



Edited by Finnforest - June 08 2019 at 15:03
...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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... and we should triple the # of tracks
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Great, fresh idea for new thread. 

I'd prefer to be able to choose any 8 songs, though--don't like the one-per-album restriction.
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Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Rush?

No way I could do it without it being a massive multi-disc boxed set.
 

Think of it as Vol. I of IX. Wink
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This should be fun (and tougher for me than the Genesis thread)

The Necromancer
Xanadu
Hemispheres
Freewill
Camera Eye
Losing It
Between The Wheels
Mystic Rhythms
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