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zwordser
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Well, good to know they did a Yes reaction. Bad that Metropolis1 was the first thing these guys reviewed by DT. They are great reviewers, but they are basically rhythm/transition appreciators more than anything. I don't think they quite understand epic/symphonic composition, and even if they did, still might not like it much. And it ain't just George and Ryan; I've seen a few comments on Youtube confidently asking for the reviews of very complex or epic pieces, some of them with comments like ..."it'll blow you away". Or if its a comment on a video for a simpler/more straightforward song for a certain band encouraging the review of a more complex one by the same band, they'll say something like "OK, now I think you're ready for... [whatever epic by same band], as if they just know (whatever millenial/hip-hop reviewer) is gonna love it on first listen. More often than not, the resulting review is lackluster, insincere, or just negative. Perhaps a good example is the big request for George and Ryan to review 2112 after very positively reviewing YYZ (in my original post at the beginning) and Working Man (they also did Spirit of Radio, but I'm not sure if it was before or after 2112). At first they didn't want to do it, saying it was just too long, but finally decided to (I think under pressure from Rush fans). It wasn't a negative review, but you could tell they didn't like it near as much as YYZ or Working Man, and maybe it was a lot for them to absorb--I don't think they've done any more album sides/epics since. Edited by zwordser - January 28 2019 at 11:29 |
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^ Well what you describe is why prog has been in downside for so long, nobody cares for side long songs. With the advent of digital/CD and the ability to skip on demand, has helped this part of prog struggle.
Most (non-proggers) look at 10+ minutes songs as a waste of time and boring. There is some truth here, if not done well for the whole time a 20min song can be boring at times. Nobody is ready to hear 2112 in today's world. Can you imagine what their (or anyone else) would react to Thick As A Brick?? That would be brutal.......Especially that they are more into hard rock/metal than folk/symphonic prog. If they don't like it then they tell it like they hear it, which I am perfectly fine with. I don't expect them to love let alone like prog. What I appreciate is they recognize the LZ~When The Levee Breaks as being a blues based song and loving the harmonica.....They get it.
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zwordser
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^ By and large true that most do not care about side-long pieces, but there are exceptions: positive reviews, including some with depth of analysis, including this one. Now, I should say, these "Enoma" folks reacted very positively to 2112 (moreso than George and Ryan), but their reaction to the Fountain of Lamneth, I thought, was more sincere and insightful--so that's what I've posted here. It was actually nice for me to see/hear this, after not listening to FoL for such a long time., and good to see a little love for it, as I don't think there are many (or any?) others reacting to it. Edited by zwordser - February 03 2019 at 14:37 |
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With the overwhelming number of reactions to more popular bands, like Rush, Pink Floyd, and Queen that are out there, its nice to finally see some (relatively few) reactions to less-known bands, like this one to Camel. This guy is always brief, and to me seems honest in his reactions (and he reacts to A LOT of music). In all the reactions I've seen of his, I haven't seen him get so excited over Camel--especially his reaction to Nimrodel... It's amusing to see him use words like "Filthy", "disgusting", and "heavy callisthetics" (which means he really likes it). |
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Logan
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^ you can tell that he feels the groove, which is a reason why I love "Nimorodel/ The Procession/ The White Rider".
Here is his reaction to Henry Cow's Amygdala: |
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Logan
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I missed your response before. Having opera singers react to Queen with Freddie Mercury doesn't surprise me. I have heard various operatic singers singing Queen songs, Mercury has strong vocals, and Queen can be very operatic (think Bohemian Rhapsody) and theatrical. Freddie Mercury recorded an album called Barcelona with an opera soprano called Montserrat Caballé. Having opera singers react to Crunk, or virtuoso musicians reacting to The Shaggs might present some amusement due to the contrast. When looking up Reaction videos I did notice many Queen ones. Edited by Logan - February 13 2019 at 15:18 |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Meh. I know why these vids are so popular with people, but I can just never watch more than 2-3 mins of one. Neat but not really for me.
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Oganesson
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Agreed. I usually avoid these ones anyway. Though I do appreciate how the trend of reaction videos is evolving from reacting to YouTube videos (which I find really unnecessary) to reacting to albums and critiques of master artists, similar to full-fledged professional reviews.
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Davesax1965
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It's just the latest waste of server disk space, on a par with "unboxing videos".
"I can't think of anything to do, so...... hey, everyone, look at me !!! " |
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progaardvark
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Well, you guys can go poo-poo them all you want, I actually find them refreshing; seeing somebody listen to a classic the first time and seeing it "click" in their eyes and facial expressions. Or seeing the confused look on their faces for a song that I also thought was confusing the first time. It is about sharing the music we love, is it not?
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Catcher10
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I have watched many of them, but I only appreciate the Lost in Vegas boys. They just come across as more genuine and honest and also they review a broad array of music. I could give a horses rear about country, but find it entertaining when I watch them review country.
I watch them when I am bored, not because they are posting something or I have to see what they are doing. Like anything else it's entertainment and yea it's another spin on music we love.
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Logan
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I had watched various Kids React and the like videos (due to one of my children) before this topic (the comments can be funny), but hadn't watched these kinds of Reaction videos before. It's not really for me either, but it was rather interesting to experience and fun to comment on in this discussion. I'm game to check out new-to-me things, and I do like to at least read people's early reactions to new-to-them things be it positive or negative, though I certainly do prefer positive feedback on the whole (that's part of the appeal of internet forums to me).
When it comes to youtube vids, such a discovery as the Don't Hug Me I'm Scared series thanks to my kid is more my thing. Edited by Logan - February 14 2019 at 12:15 |
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zwordser
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Reaction vids get old for me when I watch too many, but it takes quite a few before I need a break. I agree that they can be "refreshing" in a way. Its easy to see why many people like them by looking at the comments of those viewing/liking-- things like "...Ahh, to listen to [whatever band] for the first time again!". So it seems to be a way to vicariously re-live discovering certain bands/songs. Its also just nice to see people who don't normally listen to prog discover it, and better to react positively to it.
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Polo's Lair
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Love These guys, especially their Proggy reviews... even Led Zeppelin etc. They quite often seemed surprised in how good it is....fantastic
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zwordser
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Who you talking about? George and Ryan?
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Polo's Lair
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Sorry, connected the reply to Lost in Vegas post.....still trying to work out how the posts work
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Vompatti
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Vin and Sori's reaction videos are pretty comfy to listen to, although in most cases they're not so much reaction as lyrical analysis and off at tangents.
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zwordser
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I've only seen 3-4 vids by Vin and Sori, but their reaction to Freewill was, well, amusing or horrible, depending on how you look at it. I didn't like it, but calling a Freewill "childish" (if I remember correctly) was rather laughable to me. So here's one that was pretty cool: Again, I don't care for a lot Weaboo's vids, but this one for Hemispheres left him SPEECHLESS, then he apologizes for being asleep on Rush, and that he's awake now!!... |
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Lost in Vegas has upped their game, now in podcast mode of broadcasting. Studio mics and better sound as evidenced by the Opeth reaction in their Prog Metal tournament......Everyone else are followers.
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Saperlipopette!
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^Well I'm still entertained - but I've only watched a couple of Lost in Vegas and the one with that unsympathetic dork who hated In the Court.. in total. With the latter guy I can agree with Davesax1965 while Ryan and George I find entertaining in their open minded appreciation of music outside their comfort zone. It may be a waste of time but I've wasted plenty of time on more pointless things than this. Besides they certainly made me
reappreciate Opeth with this vid. I haven't thought about them in years.
It'll be interesting if their next Opeth-tune features their signature
mix of growls/clean-singing. Those beautiful vocal harmonies certainly
took me by surprise 2/3ds out in the first I song ever heard by them
(Master's Apprentices).
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