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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Thanks Atkingani, I was on the brink of writing at about 100 reviews similar to those abovementioned but then I realised that this was a bit too cheap way to come closer to Sean
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laplace ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 06 2005 Location: popupControl(); Status: Offline Points: 7606 |
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hrm, I don't see what's so wrong with my review. maybe it's a little iconoclastic but I described why I gave them such a poor rating.
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Well Laplace, my problem is not that you described why you gave them such a poor rating but the way you have done it: in general Mirage by Camel is considered as a strong effort and a wonderful symphonic prog album. Personally I love the great melodic lines, the emotion in Latimer his guitarplay, the dynamics in songs like Nimrodel and Lady Fantasy and the beatiful colouring by the vintage keyboards. Reading your review the Prog Archives visitor could get the idea that Camel is one of those amateur progrock bands that lack any creative ideas, plays too smooth and fail to keep the attention of the listener. That's contrary to the strong musical experience that Camel deliver with their album Mirage.... in my opinion. |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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That's not the reason for removing the review though Erik. There's no right and wrong with opinions on any album. The challenge is greater to write a constructive review criticising an album, but as long as a critical review explains what is wrong with the album (in the reviewer's opinion) it is perfectly acceptable.
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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OK, thanks Easy Livin, what a challenge: instead of promoting lesser or unknown bands I focus on bands I don't like, I hope to blend creativity and venom, be prepared for a tidal flood of these kind of progrock reviews
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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It's funny and 100% honest because I don't even know the band so anything I say ijust from the review (My commments about why I think must be deleted are in blue):
I believe this review is not remortely a review.
Not a word about the songs, structures or lyrics, just rants over and over, this is the same guy who made a review about SEBTP givoing one star and which was deleted.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - April 01 2007 at 02:00 |
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ClemofNazareth ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
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Why was it deleted then? |
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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It was still inapporiate. |
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andu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
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Could you define that, please? ![]() |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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See the reviews guidelines.
I did not take a view on this specific review, as Atkingani had already dealt with it. My comments above we intended as a general response.
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ClemofNazareth ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
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Atkingani, Can you help me understand specifically which provision of the review guidelines Turion violated with his SEBTP review? |
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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![]() ![]() Oh if only that was the worst of it... Edited by Geck0 - April 01 2007 at 09:19 |
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Man Erg ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 26 2004 Location: Isle of Lucy Status: Offline Points: 7456 |
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Did they change their name to the New Trolls?
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![]() Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
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Chris H ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 08 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Status: Offline Points: 8191 |
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Are you talking about the fact that William Hung is now in the archives?
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Beauty will save the world.
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Man Erg ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 26 2004 Location: Isle of Lucy Status: Offline Points: 7456 |
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Morrissey really likes him. After all The Smiths did record William,It Was Really Nothung. ![]() ![]() Edited by Man Erg - April 01 2007 at 09:18 |
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![]() Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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William Hung?
No, I have all of his albums, he definitely deserves to be here. I run the RIO/Avant-Prog team, I say he stays. ![]() |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Let's not get too embroiled in this. Guiog has e-mailed the reviewer with details of the reasons for his actions, and inviting him to submit a revised review.
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progismylife ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2006 Location: ibreathehelium Status: Offline Points: 15535 |
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I don't see a problem with writing in Spanish, Russian, and German, and I was only expressing my opinion on the album so whats the problem?
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Mandrakeroot ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
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This review offended me, Jethro Tull and Prog!!! This review is a ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Trickster F. ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
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![]() The best part was "I really shouldn't have supported them based only on this fact". Great support, huh!
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