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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 08:23
Modern day character?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 08:24
He’s fictional, and he’s not dead by the end of the story.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 08:26
Answered before I saw your next post, I’m afraid. No, I wouldn’t call him a modern day character.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 09:18
That is an interesting turn of phrase...you wouldn't call him modern day...hmm,,so maybe the first half of the 20th century?

And thanks for the welcome back.Wink I'll try to be less childish.Clown
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 10:28
Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

I found it!

The typist home at teatime, clears her breakfast, lights
Her stove, and lays out food in tins.
Out of the window perilously spread
Her drying combinations touched by the sun's last rays,
On the divan are piled (at night her bed)
Stockings, slippers, camisoles, and stays.
I Tiresias, old man with wrinkled dugs
Perceived the scene, and foretold the rest -
I too awaited the expected guest.
He, the young man carbuncular, arrives,
A small house agent's clerk, with one bold stare,
One of the low on whom assurance sits
As a silk hat on a Bradford millionaire.
The time is now propitious, as he guesses,
The meal is ended, she is bored and tired,
Endeavours to engage her in caresses
Which still are unreproved, if undesired.
Flushed and decided, he assaults at once;
Exploring hands encounter no defence;
His vanity requires no response,
And makes a welcome of indifference.
(And I Tiresias have foresuffered all
Enacted on this same divan or bed;
I who have sat by Thebes below the wall
And walked among the lowest of the dead.)
Bestows one final patronising kiss,
And gropes his way, finding the stairs unlit . . .

 
Cool Interesting! There are some striking parallels with The Cinema Show. I did not know the poem.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 10:34
A Dickensian character?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 12:04
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

That is an interesting turn of phrase...you wouldn't call him modern day...hmm,,so maybe the first half of the 20th century?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 12:06
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

 
Cool Interesting! There are some striking parallels with The Cinema Show. I did not know the poem.


Some striking parallels, indeed. I’ll try to find what my brother, who’s a litrerary critic and a big fan of Gabriel/Hackett era Genesis, mailed me about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 12:07
Originally posted by James James wrote:

A Dickensian character?


No, not Dickens.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 12:30
Are we talking 19th century?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 12:31
Yes, 19th century.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 12:33
Will have to check up on novelists..here wiki wiki!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 12:34
I found my brother’s mail, but it’s pretty long, so I’ll give you a link to the thread I posted it in instead. I had asked him if it’s a common interpretation that Eliot describes a rape, hence the start. Scroll down until you find my loooong post.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72462&PN=2
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2012 at 16:11
^Thnx! Interesting stuff indeed.
 
Is the current person created by another writer known around by the surname Eliot?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2012 at 01:05
Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

He’s fictional, and he’s not dead by the end of the story.

(Btw, welcome back, Snowy!)


I presume this is just the way you decided to write the sentence, rather than a clue.  I read this as "he's dead at the beginning of the story but alive at the end" but I guess it just means he doesn't die in the novel?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2012 at 02:50
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

^Thnx! Interesting stuff indeed.
 
Is the current person created by another writer known around by the surname Eliot?


No, not Mary Ann Evans (George Eliot).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2012 at 02:52
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

He’s fictional, and he’s not dead by the end of the story.

(Btw, welcome back, Snowy!)


I presume this is just the way you decided to write the sentence, rather than a clue.  I read this as "he's dead at the beginning of the story but alive at the end" but I guess it just means he doesn't die in the novel?


No hidden clue intended. All I meant is that he doesn’t die during the story.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2012 at 05:43
That's what I thought.

Is the author European?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2012 at 05:51
Yes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2012 at 06:01
A male author?
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