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Poll Question: Which is your favourite?
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Definitely Pink Floyd for me, one of the defining psychedelic albums that sounds like nothing else before or since. I have fond memories of a good mate and I just overdosing on this one over many years, even buying about three reissues of it during that time!

I also have vague recollections of us in a rubbish attempt at a psychedelic band writing a song about meeting Syd Barrett who was sitting in a shopping trolley in the supermarket...

I like the cool noisy playing on the Soft Machine debut, but (as Sagi well knows!) I cannot stomach Robert Wyatt's flat weezy pained vocals! It frequently means I cannot make it more than half way through the albums.   
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Syd was a genius. That's all.
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Soft Machine by a country mile.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Syd was a genius. That's all.
He certainly was a genius, but I personally prefer The Madcap Laughs and Barrett a lot more than The Piper at the Gates of Dawn Embarrassed





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Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Syd was a genius. That's all.
He certainly was a genius, but I personally prefer The Madcap Laughs and Barrett a lot more than The Piper at the Gates of Dawn Embarrassed



The Piper has Richard Wright, too.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Syd was a genius. That's all.
He certainly was a genius, but I personally prefer The Madcap Laughs and Barrett a lot more than The Piper at the Gates of Dawn Embarrassed



The Piper has Richard Wright, too.
 

Also, during recording of The Madcap Laughs, Soft Machine were contribute to do overdubs for a few songs. At the same time, Syd Barrett played guitar at Kevin Ayers' song Religious Experience (Singing A Song In The Morning) Smile
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Floyd, and it ain't even close.
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For me, this is a definite IMPOSSIBLE. I just can't vote. I absolutely worship both of these, quirky and colourful debut albums equally. Add to that Caravan's debut and there's one helluva selection.....
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I'm actually surprised to find such a heavy slant towards Floyd. Of course Floyd are the more widely known band, but there seem to be so many people who like that band that cannot stand `Piper', so I figured this poll might have been a bit closer.

Good call, Tom! Man, that Caravan debut is a doozy...definitely one of the defining psych albums to my ears! It's strange, as much as I love it, I don't listen to it as much as the above two albums...

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^Me too Kangaroo. I thought most people into Floyd largely were because of what happened with Meddle and afterwards. 
These people are of course all wrong, as they're forgetting masterpieces such as Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother (Not to mention MoreHeart).


Edit: I have no idea on how to vote in this pollConfused Love both and for quite the same reasons actually. I guess it's the young energy and naiveness about the two that really make them what they are (at least to me).


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Dave, I love (and 100% agree! ) with your `These people are all wrong'! All those early precious psychedelic spacey gems!

The truth is, there's even that other bunch of the `mainstream' Floyd fans that will generally ignore that entire early period, arrive for `DSotM', `Wish You Were Here', skip `Animals', come back for `The Wall', drop off for `The Final Cut', and then show up one final time for `Momentary Lapse of Reason'...Hello commercial radio fans!

Crap, now I'm ranting! So, in closing, my point is - go `More'!
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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Dave, I love (and 100% agree! ) with your `These people are all wrong'! All those early precious psychedelic spacey gems!

The truth is, there's even that other bunch of the `mainstream' Floyd fans that will generally ignore that entire early period, arrive for `DSotM', `Wish You Were Here', skip `Animals', come back for `The Wall', drop off for `The Final Cut', and then show up one final time for `Momentary Lapse of Reason'...Hello commercial radio fans!

Crap, now I'm ranting! So, in closing, my point is - go `More'!


I know those Floyd fans......I used to be one, but luckily I've been cured. -Maybe not entirely - I still detest Final Cut with a vengeance.

....and yes, go More!!!Big smile
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It's all good, baby, you've seen the light, drunk the Kool Aid and got the psych flowing through your veins like a wonderful sickness! The same that has me overdosing on Embryo's `Father Son and Holy Ghost', `If 2' and Janus `Gravedigger' at work tonight!
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Aahhh m'lud! I thought I was the only one who was into that Embryo album. I absolutely adore it to be honest. I also happen to think it holds one of their best (if not THE best) tunes they ever put to record in King Insano. I don't know what it is about this one, but it never seizes to amaze me with it's spastic drumming, psych fusion and those wonderful swirling sections. 

Edited by Guldbamsen - August 27 2014 at 06:46
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This question can be meditated for a good while... yet I think Soft Machine's work is better conceived
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Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

As an avid Pink Floyd fan, I have to say I'm not fond of their earlier material. From Meddle to The Final Cut is where this band took off IMHO.

Which is my feelings too, However.

I just read a book about Syd Barrett (A Very Irregular Head: The Life of Syd Barrett by Rob Chapman), and he basically says just the opposite, he fell in love with the band with Syd writing and was never able to enjoy the Waters stuff later. It is a different type of lyrics that basically make the difference, because really as far as music there is stuff like Astronomy Domine and Interstellar Overdrive  that shows what was to come later musically.

Obviously he knows he is in the minority, but that never means much when you love something like music.
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Pink Floyd, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn.
When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.
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