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ole-the-first 
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Joined: January 03 2012 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 1534 |
 Posted: November 27 2013 at 03:53 |
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Underrated:
-Black Sabbath's 'Born Again'. I never could get what was so bad in that album all the critics were sh*tthrowing about? -'Queen II' was met pretty cold by critics. Overrated: -Just look at this: http://www.allmusic.com/album/believe-mw0002357910 Edited by ole-the-first - November 27 2013 at 03:54 |
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jude111
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 07:48 |
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Snob.  Seriosly, millions of (pre?)teenage girls would disagree with you. And why isn't their appreciation valid, or our appreciation for prog or a macho band like Black Sabbath more valid than theirs? We certainly don't have the high ground, considering the bollocking that prog music gets. I have to say, in the last decade or so I've really become much more aware of how hegemonic we males are when it comes to critical discourse about popular music. Music that females tend to listen to gets vilified and pilloried not just by the press (esp. the "cool" critics & zines), but by most males, whether it's Justin Bieber or a band like Keane. Even my own inclination at one time was to scoff at the mere mention of singers/bands as those. We're still far from gender equality when music women like tends to be so easily dismissed and ridiculed. I like AllMusic because it doesn't champion one genre over another. If you like Bieber, then its rating systems should reflect what is generally considered to be his best, and worst, albums... It's much better than the snobbery of, say, "Rolling Stone Record Guide," which was insufferable. Edited by jude111 - November 27 2013 at 07:52 |
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kenethlevine
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 08:15 |
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great points all round. Agreed especially about all music guide vs Rolling Stone
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JellySucker
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 09:23 |
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Why not their debut album? |
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 09:54 |
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Don;t have any ratings links to share except the wiki ratings from various rock sources, but I have always thought that Bruce Springsteen in general is overrated.
The critics seem to think this guy can do no wrong......and he usually gets 4 and 5 stars .
I never connected to what he's saying...and playing.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 10:13 |
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^Maybe you're like me? Without a driver's license. Most of his songs seem to be about driving - or some kind of road
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
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alienshore
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 10:36 |
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my favourite band Toto is the most hated band in the world, and the critics gave them poor ratings and classified them as a boring and uninteresting band ...
very sad and i think also funny, because these critics don't know to play on instruments like Mr. Paich or Mr. Lukather, they only hated their music and this is really amateurish and unconstructive approach rating on album Mindfields from Allmusic is terrible from my point of view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfields |
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 10:56 |
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 11:00 |
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Yes, I am 
Well, I wouldn't mind if someone is listening to Coldplay or Avril Lavigne or any other easy-listening pop/rock. But when it come to Bieber, it really looks like those girls are more amazed with his appearance than with music actually.
Agreed. Maybe, some sexual context is hidden here? I mean, maybe males are subconciously tend to take those guys the girls are mad about as their personal rivals?
Yeah, this is one of the better sides of AllMusic. |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 11:03 |
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I used to be a big fan back when I was 10, but I never got around to purchasing anything from him. Didn't stick.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
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jude111
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 11:08 |
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It's probably something only (some) Americans (not me! :-) find appealing. Springsteen, the guy from New Jersey who lived a little too close for comfort to the mean old NY City "jungleland," and wanting to find freedom by jumping into his Chevy, hitting the highway and not stopping till hitting "Nebraska." Probably his music is more a critique than a celebration of this migration out of the cities. Much of America, or at least white America, made the same trek to the suburbs and exurbs to try to escape (blacks) er cities. JP Sartre wrote some essays about his visit to America, and he wrote that Americans really live in their cars, and abandon their homes on the slightest pretext. (His essay on Detroit as a shiny new city birthed overnight and likely to be abandoned at some point seem esp. poignant considering its postapocalyptic decline and bankruptcy. Expect Cheney's Halliburton to come swooping in from their headquarters in Qatar to help oversee its "reconstruction.") Marshall McLuhan wrote, "America's contribution to Architecture is the Highway." I guess Springsteen's music charts this to some extent. The hopes and dreams of his protagonists are victims of these historical and economic processes, but given ideological coatings as "yearning for freedom and the American Dream" bull****... Okay I'll shut up now, haha.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 11:14 |
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No I like people who get caught up in a stream of thinking
In Denmark we live in trees. That's why we get such good cable.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 11:38 |
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Same for me. My wife bought me a biography of him last Christmas and I just started reading it last week. After a few nights I gave up halfway through because I just couldn't relate to him and what he was all about. The book was strange, as a teenager they claimed he was a Jeff Beck skill level guitar player then he got his 1st recording contract as a Bob Dylan singer-songwriter unaccompanied acoustic player kind of guy, then he brought his old buddies in and that became the horn based rocking E Street band and he was "The Boss". That's when I decided I'd rather play I-pad Scrabble than read this silliness
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Bitterblogger
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 11:04 |
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Emerson, Lake & Powell got slammed back in the day.
Not long ago, my msn homepage had a "biggest surprise winner" type of story regarding the Grammys, and they mentioned Tull's "Crest of a Knave" as undeserving next to "And Justice For All". Actually I think they got it right. |
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Finnforest
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 11:24 |
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Yeah! I love Born Again too!! Awesome work-out album.  |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 12:46 |
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The New Rolling Stone Album Guide with the Moody Blues 1967 - 1972 period.
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 13:01 |
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 13:08 |
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Panned them, and how. With the exception of Days, none of their classic albums made it to the 2/5 or higher range.
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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Earthmover
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Posted: January 26 2014 at 05:32 |
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you shouldn't be that mad about it also, "because these critics don't know to play on instruments" is not really a valid argument
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prog4evr
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Posted: January 26 2014 at 08:51 |
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It was the mid-1970s for me. That dumbass with the LA Times who thought Bruce Springsteen was God's gift to music, and that any fictitious named bands (e.g., all prog groups) were to be avoided like the plague, was my reason to never trust a mass-media music reviewer of prog every again...
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