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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 14:31 | |
I was actually thinking about requesting Jeff Beck's inclusion a few days ago, but decided not to. Look's like you guys beat me to it! (I would be happy to do a biography and all the necessary things, too) |
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Garion81
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 14:32 | |
Quit banging on M@X and go write some reviews.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
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Hierophant
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 11 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 651 |
Posted: August 04 2005 at 15:13 | |
Led Zeppelin is 95% basic blues stuff.
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MustShaveBeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 20 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 366 |
Posted: August 04 2005 at 15:24 | |
Oh great, look at all the exciting possibilities putting Queen on the archives has brought!
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Your life or your lupins!!!
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Hemispheres
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 22 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 533 |
Posted: August 04 2005 at 15:36 | |
GET A LIFE THERES MORE TO LIFE THEN ARGUING ABOUT WETHER QUEEN OR ZEPPELIN SHOULD BE ON THIS WEBSITE (Jumping Jesus)
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M@X
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 15:37 | |
Ok Garion81 , i'll continue to listen to ...
while doing some reviews BOSS
PS : Anyone interested in listening to the song "7th Son of the 7th Son" and appreciate this great Prog Metal Epic . I know Philippe wants to .. You can download it here
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Prog On !
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 15:47 | |
No there isn't, this is life! Ok so if someone suggests AC/DC to go on the Archives, no one argue OK everyone? |
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Raff
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 15:51 | |
While it's true that Zeppelin are a bit too blues-based to be called prog, it's also true that their later albums were more and more influenced by progressive rock. Of course No Quarter is the first example that comes to mind, but I'd also mention Kashmir and Achilles' Last Stand. Again, as I said earlier on in the Deep Purple thread, if Queen have been included, then why not Zeppelin? After all, they are one of the most influential bands in the history of rock, and one that was always capable of evolving.
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Fragile
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 27 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 1125 |
Posted: August 04 2005 at 15:56 | |
Zeppelin are a great rock band but are no prog band.What is wrong wiith people on this site??????? Can't they differentiate between hard rock/metal/ basic rock and popular music Some of the music being forwarded on here in recent months is beyond a joke.What next T-Rex they had some proggy moments didn't they?
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MANTICORE
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 09 2005 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 350 |
Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:08 | |
the beatles arrived at their progressive degree in the album sgts. Pepper from in ahead.
zeppelin has very good songs through his there albunes I-II-II will be very difficult that they add these groups read topic of M@X. already.?
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Certif1ed
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:21 | |
It's not about influence, or there would be tons of bands that sound like Gentle Giant. Led Zeppelin evolved one single style, and they were progressive within that style. The style was based on the blues, with an occasional injection of folk, and involved standard song structures with (often extended) instrumental sections. The music was largely based on riffs repeated verbatim, not developing, and the instrumental sections were comprised almost solely of improvisation around one or two riffs. Rythmically, the music tends to be in straight 4 time, or at the very least, will maintain a constant beat with driving fills that you can headbang to. The lyrical matter is usually relatively down to earth, and includes sexual love as part of its subject matter fairly requently.
Prog rock evolves many different styles - adopting and discarding where necessary, but continuosly mixing into the band's personal hallmarks. The essential style of Prog was originally based on the heavier side of blues and psychedelia, but had pretensions of grandeur outside of the mainstream rock arena reflected by use of "higher" musical styles, such as "classical" and jazz. The lyrical matter is usually fantastical or mystical, and rarely includes sexual love as part of its subject matter, although the more philosophical aspects do crop up. Rhythmically, it can be all over the shop. The rules are there are no rules. The music was riff-based to a degree, but often with contrapuntal bass and keyboards, and tended to avoid exact repetition, preferring to build a style, sometimes adding layers of different textures. The instrumental sections were carefully constructed so that the musicians could improvise around them live, but through-composed on the whole so that the thematic material of the song was developed further through use of devices such as contrasting sections.
There are essentially two different types of music. Music created for people to sing or dance to, and music created for people to sit and wonder at. Folk music and art music. Led Zeppelin are closer to folk than art. There is precious little composition in their music, wonderful though it may be. Queen are closer to art than folk, in their early albums. There is much evidence of composition and attention to detail, even if much of it is through studio trickery.
Yes, the lines blur over. This is just a theory - agree or disagree at will - but Progressive Rock is a form of Art Music, and the Blues are a form of Folk. |
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Arsillus
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:26 | |
Zeppelin is not prog. Zeppelin was "progressive" rock, not "progressive rock." It was pushed with Queen, let's not push it further.
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Garion81
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:33 | |
Actually M@X that was for Tony R and his new elevated positon here.
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M@X
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:35 | |
Tony R is a great collaborator !!!
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M@X
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:36 | |
Anyone downloaded my Maiden song ?
By the way , tonite I am going to a Tribute to Maiden Show @ l'Agora de Québec !!! Edited by M@X |
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con safo
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:37 | |
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Tony R
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:40 | |
You might need some of those earplugs you hand out to Collaborators for when we review Dream Theater albums: Your own special brand
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Proglover
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 09 2005 Status: Offline Points: 416 |
Posted: August 04 2005 at 16:44 | |
Oh this is so exciting....I say...Add Led Zeppelin and while you are at it......you should add Deep Purple too......hee hee... I still stand firm in my belief that music must overide band....if Zeppelin wrote a progressive song or album, and if this is a site about progressive music, then that album should be on the site.....I've said it once I'll say it again, and I know you guys are probably getting sick and tired of seeing this....BUT.....Long Live Progressive Music, and Down with the ideology of Progressive Bands. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 17:23 | |
No need to download, I know it well. And before you go out, fix my posting review problem!
OK go out then! |
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Tony R
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 18:34 | |
What do you want him to do,send you for lessons? |
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