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Posted: June 18 2013 at 15:37
I don't feel Dark Side of the Moon is very adventurous, Ummagumma studio on the other hand...Today it seems rather incredible that they got away with it.
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 16:56
I agree with HolyMoly: Magma's MDK, Can's Tago Mago, Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, and Kayo
Dot's Choirs of the Eye all burst onto the scene with sound/music that was, to me, totally mind expanding. I will also add those posed by Queen By-Tor: King Crimson's Discipline and The Mars Volta's De-loused in the Comatorium as well as three others that I think fit the bill: Yes' Fragile, Cocteau Twins' Treasure and maudlin of the Well's Part the Second also blew me away with the freshness of their sounds, composing & performing. All amazing achievements in human creativity, IMHO.
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 16:59
I think there's a bunch here, I'm going to pick albums that stopped me in my tracks when I heard them, I'll go for:-
Amon Duul II - Tanz Der Lemminge (great genre stretching psyche) King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic (so angular, so heavy, so different from the earlier stuff) Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History (avant metal unlike anyone else) Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica (nuff said) MC5 - Kick Out The Jams (heavy heavy heavy) Art Zoyd - Symphonie pour le jour... (angular, dissonant, what the hell is going on?) Electric Masada - At The Mountains Of Madness (how to make music bleed, it literally screams) 5UU's - Hungers Teeth (edgy, atonal, dissonant, me likey) Comus - First Utterance (Acid Folk, my god he sounds like he's suffering) Richard Pinhas - Metal / Crystal (noise that moves and flows, drives & throbs)
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 17:41
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Would Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock be considered adventurous beyond the band's progression?
I would say so. I probably would have included Spirit of Eden in my post if I'd thought of it. I remember when it came out, I was trying to figure out what it was - "jazz, but not jazz" is pretty much as far as I got.
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I would say so. I probably would have included Spirit of Eden in my post if I'd thought of it. I remember when it came out, I was trying to figure out what it was - "jazz, but not jazz" is pretty much as far as I got.
An incredible record. Though I prefer Laughing Stock, Spirit of Eden is certainly more innovative. Laughing Stock expanded on the sound they established on SoE and developed it further imo.
Though not prog, I would like to mention Dan Barrett's project Have a Nice Life and the album Deathconsciousness. It's a great mix of shoegaze, post-rock, post-punk and drone. One of the darkest and most interesting albums I've ever heard. Here's the ending track if anyone's interested:
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 20:05
Not mentioned yet:
Henry Cow - Unrest (especially the second side, which was studio-manipulated improvisations)
Art Zoyd - Les Espace Inequits (mixing their previous freak-out chamber prog stuff with synths and drum machines for the first time, creating some incredibly weird yet timeless music)
Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante (an insane album with unpredictable and challenging music combined with some weird and sometimes disturbing lyrical content, not something you want to listen to relaxing on a Sunday afternoon or whatever)
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 23:27
HolyMoly wrote:
Horizons wrote:
Would Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock be considered adventurous beyond the band's progression?
I would say so. I probably would have included Spirit of Eden in my post if I'd thought of it. I remember when it came out, I was trying to figure out what it was - "jazz, but not jazz" is pretty much as far as I got.
I've only heard Laughing Stock, but based on what I know about rock music at the time, and about the band's history, I would definitely call it an adventurous album, and Spirit of Eden also if it's anything like it. They were, after all, one of the seminal bands of post rock, if I understand the history correctly.
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 00:14
A couple for me are:
Aphrodite's Child - 666 (such a unique album, and a forgotten gem) Carla Bley & Paul Haines - Escalator Over the Hill (who else would do a jazz opera spanning 3 LPs?)
Henry Cow - Unrest (especially the second side, which was studio-manipulated improvisations)
Art Zoyd - Les Espace Inequits (mixing their previous freak-out chamber prog stuff with synths and drum machines for the first time, creating some incredibly weird yet timeless music)
Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante (an insane album with unpredictable and challenging music combined with some weird and sometimes disturbing lyrical content, not something you want to listen to relaxing on a Sunday afternoon or whatever)
I agree with your choices here.
The first time I heard Unrest, I thought there was something wrong with my cd
Some electronic albums that I think were extremely adventurous for the time they were recorded in:
Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri and Zeit
Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht and Blackdance
Igor Wakhevitch - Logos
Heldon - Electronique Guerilla
Terry Riley - In C
Manuel Göttsching - Chessboard record
Takehisa Kosugi - Catch Wave
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 05:53
Easily "In A Glass House" by Gentle Giant.
Columbia rejected it as uncommercial and dumped it. The band stuck to its guns and released it on a relatively unknown label WWA. It is now a cult classic prog album. Can you name any other band and their album that approaches this degree of adventuresome?
Musically I think there are many albums that reach the same heights of adventurism as GG, and there are also numerous of occasions where bands didn't get to release their material, because of it being too weird/out there/classical/raw/insert your own. That's why we've seen so many issues of "long lost albums" that were never released at the time of their conception.
But if we're talking about adventurous in terms of believing in oneself and sticking to ones guns in the face of adversity, then how about Polish band SBB who effectively were outlawed for playing prog under a communist rule? These guys faced jail, if they ever got caught.
Edited by Guldbamsen - June 19 2013 at 06:08
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:09
Guldbamsen wrote:
Musically I think there are many albums that reach the same heights of adventurism as GG, and there are also numerous of occasions where bands didn't get to release their material, because of it being too weird/out there/classical/raw/insert your own. That's why we've seen so many issues of "long lost albums" that were never released.
But if we're talking about adventurous in terms of believing in oneself and sticking to ones guns in the face of adversity, then how about Polish band SBB who effectively were outlawed for playing prog under a communist rule? These guys faced jail, if they ever got caught.
Yes I really have to concur with you on this. If a band risks their life for their music then you have to say that this is more adventurous than ANYTHING GG put out.
Like I said at the start of the thread, there are really no "rights" and "wrongs" here, and one person's adventurous music just may fall under yawn to others.
Adventurous can be applied to any aspect of the band, music, circumstances of recording, the instruments being used - whatever really. You make up the rules, I'm just along for the ride
Anyway, I can just imagine getting home to my turntable anno 1973 popping on In a Glass House
I think it must've been quite the experience. Who else sounded like this? No one, literally.
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Uhh how could I forget about Esperanto's wonderfully eccentric Danse Macabre?
This though may fall under the category of adventurous ways of employing the violin, because this album definitely has some of the most incredible violin playing on it. Somewhere between Chris Karrer from ADll and Jean Luc Ponty and then not really. Popped into a zany mix of folk music on speed where the violin mimics the style of Keith Emerson.
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