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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 14:34 |
No way.
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 14:38 |
Guys guys, Kanye sampled a KING CRIMSON SONG he should totally be in RIO/Avant lol
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Horizons
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 14:41 |
Polo wrote:
Guys guys, Kanye sampled a KING CRIMSON SONG he should totally be in RIO/Avant lol |
Nonono you dummy, Eclectic.
Edited by Horizons - November 02 2011 at 14:41
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 14:46 |
Absolutely not.
If I may be frank, it is one of the worst additions to the site.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 14:49 |
Prog related but barely.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 15:21 |
Sure. His albums definitely got something. Crossover seems fine.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 15:22 |
Hercules wrote:
The Principle of Moments is prog for sure - far more so than Led Zeppelin ever was. If there's any debate, it's whether they should be in - and I don't think they should. |
Led Zep are here as Prog Related, so not Prog anyway. I was against their inclusion but I understand why they are here.
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twosteves
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 15:35 |
voted prog related---
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Todd
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 15:42 |
I voted Prog-Related.
But I have to say that working in a somewhat beleaguered sub-genre myself (though nowhere near Crossover), I would not second guess a team that has worked very hard to evaluate and add artists to the site. I don't agree with every decision, but a team's decision is theirs and I support them.
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cstack3
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 15:50 |
thehallway wrote:
Rant: We may as well add the rest of the musicians in the world now. Yes, labelling is subjective and loose... but the reason we categorise things in the first place is for practicality. Lines between genres should be blurry, but at this rate there won't be any lines at all.
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I'll second this rant. I used to argue that ALL rock & roll was "progressive" by definition, since it evolved from blues, jazz and other forms, incorporated increasingly modern/complex instrumentation, and continued to change.
However, in the way that "prog" is defined on this site, I don't see anything that Plant has done as meeting the strict definition of the term. He's played with a few progressive instrumentalists like John Paul Jones, and done some interesting rock music, but I believe he's still firmly planted in the blues.
Wot the hell, throw the gates open!! Humble Pie? Why not, Clem Clemson recorded with Jon Anderson!
Cheap Trick? Yeah, they used synth once or twice! Sheesh!
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 15:54 |
as I said in my PoM review, he is digressive
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Failcore
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 15:55 |
We should start petition to evict Plant.
Edit: it's also pretty telling that not one member of the crossover team is even attempting to defend their goof up.
Edited by Deathrabbit - November 02 2011 at 15:56
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 16:21 |
![Ermm Ermm](smileys/smiley24.gif) Goof up? It was well-debated, both in the Team and among Collabs in general, and I have little doubt a Crossover team member would be happy to discuss it.
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Dean
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 16:30 |
Deathrabbit wrote:
Edit: it's also pretty telling that not one member of the crossover team is even attempting to defend their goof up.
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Seriously, they don't need to. However, since this thread has only been in existence for 4½ hours it isn't really that surprising and certainly isn't "telling" of anything in particular, well... nothing relating to Xover or Percy that for sure.
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What?
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Windhawk
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 16:34 |
Deathrabbit wrote:
We should start petition to evict Plant.
Edit: it's also pretty telling that not one member of the crossover team is even attempting to defend their goof up.
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Why should they? He's been here for two years or thereabouts. I do expect that you'll climb down from your judgemental pedestal and listen through, and write about, all of Plant's solo albums in the coming weeks. So that we'll know that your opinion is based on concrete knowledge and not just someone contributing with knee jerk reactions and hot steam based on loose knowledge. Incidentally, I didn't partake in this particular inclusion nor do I have an agenda. But I really dislike judgemental people with aggressive tendencies. I'm outta this debate, and I'll be awaiting a flurry of Plant reviews in the coming days and weeks.
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Failcore
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 16:38 |
I've heard a bunch of his solo stuff, so my moral outrage is totally justified ![Tongue Tongue](smileys/smiley17.gif) Also, I really dont care that much, but I think it does show that bands are evaluated based on who proposed them as well as the music. And that attitude is what bugs me.If I'd suggested Plant, I woulda been trolled into non-existence.
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 16:41 |
lazland wrote:
At best prog related, and then only barely. |
Same here
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The T
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 16:52 |
Justin Bieber has a new haircut. If you look at it from an angle, it somewhat resembles Elvis' hair up to a 2%. Elvis is very important in rock history. Prog-rock is a part of rock.
Justin Bieber belongs here.
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Failcore
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 16:53 |
Bieb for Xover! ZOMG!
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 18:43 |
I dunno but I really liked his project Strange Sensation
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