Genesis’ Duke makes me FURIOUS!

Got my start on the poppy side of Genesis....fell in love with Abacab/Duke/Three Sides.. as an impressionable early teen.  Fell out of love with the poppier side of Genesis as my musical tastes grew, but, even if I haven't pulled any post-Wind Genesis off of the shelf for a loooong while, I still "like" the albums and respect their decision to branch out and away from their signature classic era sound.

And, yeah, I LIKE Misunderstanding....I also like the LP cover......  Blasphemy!

 Tony the Tiger &  Feeeelona  agree that  Misunderstanding is grrrrrr-eat   ... 

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dalt99 wrote: Wow. Well, I have never bought Duke and have yet to hear it. I was surely not going to buy it after Kirklott's rantings but with all the good reviews (a few anyway) I just may have to buy it now! Uh...thanks...Kirklott...?

Its worth hearing... like most on this thread, I think the 'Bookend' pieces are very good.. and you can presently buy it on Amazon , new, for only £4.40! Wow!

Moogtron III wrote: Well, I love Duke. Fantastic album. Very complex rhythm patterns on the Duke suite, lots of great compositions. Lots of emotional highs. Great percussion on Duchess. Nothing wrong with it. Absolutely nothing.

yay!!! Big slap on the back for Moogie!!!!!

fandango wrote: kirklott wrote: Snow Dog wrote: I like the cover, its quirkey and cute! Please, my dear Snow Dog, your posts to date have always been intelligent and eloquent, the dignified work of an elegant Old World gentleman from a lineage of centuries of impeccable breeding. If I may, I implore you to employ the edit mode on the above quote to safeguard your honor, respect and dignity. With sincere regards, kirklott Wot?  Are there 2 Snow Dogs on this site then?!

I think he describes me perfectly!

Kirklott ...are you still there? You've gone very quiet all of a sudden ...

Having second thoughts about Duke yet? 

dalt99 wrote: Wow. Well, I have never bought Duke and have yet to hear it. I was surely not going to buy it after Kirklott's rantings but with all the good reviews (a few anyway) I just may have to buy it now! Uh...thanks...Kirklott...?

Well, here's my tip: if you want to get the only good track from Duke, which is Duke's Travels Duke' End, get the Genesis Archive 2, which you can find for as low as $10 on ebay. Because you'll also get these tasty b-sides and live versions, a few of which feature Hackett and Bruford:

CD ONE

3. You Might Recall (5:31) (great outtake)
5. Evidence Of Autumn (4:58) (good outtake)
8. Naminanu (3:54) (great outtake)
9. Inside And Out (6:43) (from the Spot the Pigeon EP, with Hackett!)
12. Submarine (5:13) (good outtake)

CD TWO: 72:42
3. It's Gonna Get Better (7:32) (live)
4. Deep In The Motherlode (5:54) (live)
5. Ripples (9:53) (live with Hackett?)
6. The Brazilian (5:17) (live)
8. Burning Rope (7:28) (live)
9. Entangled (6:57) (live with Hackett?)
10. Duke's Travels / Duke's End (9:31) (live)

CD THREE: 69:37
3. Tonight, Tonight, Tonight 12" (11:46)
6. The Lady Lies (6:08) (live)
7. Open Door (4:08) (good outtake)
8. The Day The Light Went Out (3:14) (great outtake)
9. Vancouver (3:03) (good outtake)
10. Pigeons (3:13) (from the Spot the Pigeon EP, with Hackett!)
11. It's Yourself (5:25) (TRICK OF THE TAIL OUTTAKE!)

felona wrote: Kirklott ...are you still there? You've gone very quiet all of a sudden ... Having second thoughts about Duke yet?

Dear Felona,

My friend, gentleman, scholar:

I am in the Rocky Mountains USA - a different hemisphere and ergo a different time zone. I have just arisen from a long night's slumber: refreshed and rivatlized from a deep repose, ready to once again defend my position, and assault/attack if necessary.

ivan_2068 wrote: I have ton agree with Kirkklott, Duke makes me sick. I accept it's slightly better than ATTW3 but that doesn't mean a thing because both are bad. No Gabriel and Hackett......No Genesis Ivàn

Finally, a voice of reason in a wilderness of lunacy! Ivan, mi hermano! Do you listen to Citizen Cain (www.citizen-cain.com) and The Watch (www.thewatch.it)?

Always been a tie for first for me (most hideous Genesis line)

1. Ballad of Big -"Big and his men were jumped by an all-star Indian tribe"...What the...?

2. Please Don't Ask - "Oh, you lost some weight I can see, your hair looks nice, you look good"

So, essentially, two things commonly come to mind for me with Duke....the horrendous 'weight' line, and how Duke can twist his left hand around like that on the cover (guess it's easy, I'm just too brittle for the slightest contortion)