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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 03:14
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Without a doubt the Wombles should be here.Not sure about Mr Batt though. Katie Melua is okay.
 
Katie Melua is a godess Big smile
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 03:45
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

To be honest, I really don't like Mike Batt or anything he's touched. Nothing personal, just find him tiresome and derivative, including Justin Haywards Classic Blue. I haven't forgiven him for All Around My Hat in 36 years and I'm in no mind to start now.

Puzzled by this. I presume we are talking about Steeleye Spans (other) seasonal hit?
Mike Batt produced both the album and the single by Steeleye Span called 'All Around My Hat' - personnaly I didn't like either, even though I liked their previous albums quite a lot. If you are referring to 'Gaudete', that was from 'Below the Salt' three years earlier and nothing to do with Mr Batt.Smile
 
Its still a puzzling comment to me though. Steeleye Span wrote the song yet you are blaming Batt for it? Did he produce it badly? For the record I do actually like this song.Use to be one of my favourites as a kid. Love that 'chugging' rhythm and Maddy's voice.Big smile

Yeah...I like too. Silly Dean.Tongue
Confused Steelye Span didn't write the song either. Geek 
 
Batt produced the album and he produced a Folk-Pop album, and not the Electric Folk or Folk-Rock of their previous albums (admittedly he/they did try and redress that on Rocket Cottage). Now everyone knows I love pop, especially 60s, 70s & 80s pop, and I have no problems with rock or folk bands "going pop", but this I simply didn't like. No puzzle.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 03:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 06:54
After getting the albums Schizophonia and The Tarot Suite (the best albums that The Alan Parsons Project didn't record), I have just acquired Arabesque, which sounds a little like latter day Camel.  The strong use of Davy Spillane's Uilleann pipes and low whistle bear similarity to 'Harbour of Tears'.  I have also bought Seven Days in Berlin, which is a very experimental orchestral album. 
 
The more I listen to Mike Batt, the less I can understand why he is not considered prog enough to be included in Prog Archives.  Is his association with the Wombles something to do with it?  If this is the case, then it seems very unfair.  It would be like defining Paul McCartney purely by 'The Frog Chorus' or David Bowie by 'The Laughing Gnome'.
 
Until I read the article on Batt in the March issue of Classic Rock Presents Prog, I had no idea how progressive Batt was as a songwriter, arranger and orchestrator.
 
I suspect that those who argue against Batt's inclusion here may not be familiar with these more overtly prog aspects of his recorded output.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 07:20
^ This isn't a "lets include Mike Batt in PA" thread, it's a general discussion about Mike Batt in "General Music DIscussions". I've not given an opinion on whether he should be included, nor cited any of his projects as a musician for reason to include or exclude him. Same is true of any comments about him as an A&R man for Liberty or as a producer (not that either of them would make him eligible for inclusion). 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 13:01
Dean, the thread is locked down in the correct forum even though the opening post is clearly asking why Batt is not in Prog Archives.  My original posting also was not placed in the "General Music DIscussions" but was subsequently moved here by an administrator.   It seems that  Batt can only be discussed at present within this particular forum which does not allow for any discussion concerning his elegibility for inclusion in Prog Archives. So I will drop out of this thread and wait until a future time when maybe the original question will be considered suitable for discussion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 13:15
^You didn't start your thread in "Suggest bands and Artists" either.  In fact neither you or the originator of this thread have proposed him.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 13:33
The problem was that the OP opened two identical threads at the same time on Mike Batt in different forums.
 
As the discussion seems to be in the main about whether he should be on the site or not, I'll relocate this one to the Suggest new bands section, to allow that discussion to continue.
 
I don't think there's been any great objection to his inclusion so far. His involvement with the Wombles will inevitably lead to jokes being made, especially by those only familiar with that part of his career.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 13:35
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

The problem was that the OP opened two identical threads at the same time on Mike Batt in different forums.
 
As the discussion seems to be in the main about whether he should be on the site or not, I'll relocate this one to the Suggest new bands section, to allow that discussion to continue.
 
I don't think there's been any great objection to his inclusion so far. His involvement with the Wombles will inevitably lead to jokes being made, especially by those only familiar with that part of his career.

No one has actually proposed him, unless I missed it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 13:59
Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

Dean, the thread is locked down in the correct forum even though the opening post is clearly asking why Batt is not in Prog Archives.  My original posting also was not placed in the "General Music DIscussions" but was subsequently moved here by an administrator.   It seems that  Batt can only be discussed at present within this particular forum which does not allow for any discussion concerning his elegibility for inclusion in Prog Archives. So I will drop out of this thread and wait until a future time when maybe the original question will be considered suitable for discussion.
As Bob has now moved this to Suggest New Bands, I guess that future time is now. Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 14:09
Whaa? What the hell kind of band suggestion is this? Shocked Wacko LOL 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 14:30
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Whaa? What the hell kind of band suggestion is this? Shocked Wacko LOL 

My thoughts exactly LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 15:06
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Laughing his way to the bank. Smart to take a percentage on this rather than the money up front. There's money in kids music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 15:07
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Without a doubt the Wombles should be here.Not sure about Mr Batt though. Katie Melua is okay.
 
Katie Melua is a godess Big smile
 


Works for me. I'd buy that for a dollar.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 15:43
I'd like to hereby propose that Mike Batt be included in Prog Archives.  What do you say?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 16:03
Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

I'd like to hereby propose that Mike Batt be included in Prog Archives.  What do you say?

Have any samples, youtube videos, links, etc that could help us determine if this music is prog?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2011 at 00:06
Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:

The Banana Splits come to mind immediately when i see this. I think this is cool. Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2011 at 03:05
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Around_My_Hat_(song)
 
From that link:
 
Songs that refer to All Around My Hat (song)

Jasper Carrot sang a parody "It's my bloody ribbon and it's my bloody hat" at the Cambridge folk Festival in 1976.LOL

Jasper Carrot also did Funky Moped produced by Jeff Lynn.
 
The Wombles and Jasper Carrot for 'prog related'? You know it makes senseBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2011 at 03:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2011 at 03:31
To those ridiculing the suggestion, I would emphasise that this would not lead to the inclusion of the Wombles, Melua, or anyone else Batt has worked with. This is purely about his solo work. If you have not heard his solo albums, you may be pleasantly surprised. They have nothing in common with the other facets of his career.
 
To reject him on the basis of work which is not being proposed for inclusion would be churlish and misguided. Let him stand or fall for admission based only on his solo albums.
 
As you will gather, I support his inclusion, either as prog related or in a prog category. More importantly, I think it is important that he is assessed fairly.
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