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0. Chill pill broski. It was meant to be lighthearted.
1. I'm sure they do, but "indie rock" is not even remotely the same as "core" music that has taken over where I live. All I'm saying is that in comparison it's not so bad.
2. Get a grip dude. I'm not even sure how you put that together from what I said ...
This is the type of band that comes out of where I live:
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 17:49
You don't know how I put together what from what you said?
And I meant professional metal bands, not the local bands that are all carbon copy deathcore. I don't know what band that is, but I generally don't judge a band until I hear it.
But, I do always like that on message boards. Someone insults a genre of music, I respond in kind, and it's all, "Chill out, bro!" Ugh.
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 17:55
~Rael~ wrote:
Now, if this was a rating based only on how much one enjoys a
piece of music (and I know that does factor in) it wouldn't be a
problem, but the rating is supposed to be based on the progressiveness
of the work, and I just can't find much prog in RS1. .
There's your issue. There's tons of progressive rock out there that sucks and lots of music from different genres that's excellent. Rating albums based on the "proginess" of the material seems narrow-minded to me, and not a good way to appreciate music as a whole. I rate albums based on the quality of the music and my own personal enjoyment - I would hope most other reviewers approach music the same way.
As far as you not "getting it"... RS1 took me at least a dozen listens to really get into. I still consider it the weakest PoS album, but I've grown to enjoy it. You may never enjoy the album, which is the beauty of everyone having their own opinion.
You don't know how I put together what from what you said?
And I meant professional metal bands, not the local bands that are all carbon copy deathcore. I don't know what band that is, but I generally don't judge a band until I hear it.
But, I do always like that on message boards. Someone insults a genre of music, I respond in kind, and it's all, "Chill out, bro!" Ugh.
What are you on about? You slammed indie (I'm assuming you mean indie rock and post rock, etc.) and I said it could be worse. Then you somehow mistook it as an insult to metal in general, which it was anything but.
For starters you said "indie" which is pretty broad term if I may say so myself. Not sure why you mean by "professional", but this band's last album debuted #8 in Top Heatseakers, #35 in Independent (Indie) Albums, and #21 in Hard Rock albums. Don't say I didn't warn you:
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 18:05
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~Rael~ wrote:
You don't know how I put together what from what you said?
And I meant professional metal bands, not the local bands that are all carbon copy deathcore. I don't know what band that is, but I generally don't judge a band until I hear it.
But, I do always like that on message boards. Someone insults a genre of music, I respond in kind, and it's all, "Chill out, bro!" Ugh.
What are you on about? You slammed indie rock and I said it could be worse. Then you took it as an insult to metal in general, which it was anything but.
Don't say I didn't worn you.
Even as a huge metal fan myself, that is some horrid stuff right there!
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 18:46
TheClosing wrote:
~Rael~ wrote:
You don't know how I put together what from what you said?
And I meant professional metal bands, not the local bands that are all carbon copy deathcore. I don't know what band that is, but I generally don't judge a band until I hear it.
But, I do always like that on message boards. Someone insults a genre of music, I respond in kind, and it's all, "Chill out, bro!" Ugh.
What are you on about? You slammed indie (I'm assuming you mean indie rock and post rock, etc.) and I said it could be worse. Then you somehow mistook it as an insult to metal in general, which it was anything but.
For starters you said "indie" which is pretty broad term if I may say so myself. Not sure why you mean by "professional", but this band's last album debuted #8 in Top Heatseakers, #35 in Independent (Indie) Albums, and #21 in Hard Rock albums. Don't say I didn't warn you:
A misunderstanding on my part, then.
As to that video. Yeah, that's pretty horrid. I'm not sure it's even metal though, but that another argument altogether.
This is still the worst crap I've heard, though:
Edited by ~Rael~ - March 09 2011 at 18:47
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 19:23
King Manuel wrote:
Prog or not, Road Salt One is for me an below average and boring album. I listen to it a few times, and put it aside. Why try so desperately to get into it and like it. Yes I agree, some albums take time to get into them, but if after three to four listening sessions nothing happens, probably also nothing will happen at the 10th listening.
Agreed, only boredom grows on you with several sessions as far as this album goes. I appreciate the intent to not get stuck in one sound but he hasn't yet found another successful one imo.
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 20:06
It took me a long time to forgive POS for Scarsick, one of my least favorite albums of the decade. When I finally did, I was pleasantly surprised. I like a band that plays what they feel rather than what is expected. And I really like the purposefully disheveled sound they used. If there is one thing that made POS less attractive to me over the years it was their excessive polish. This will go 3rd on my POS list behind BE and Concrete Lake.
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 21:20
Haha, I knew Brokencyde was going to be posted. But there's no debate about that sh*t; it isn't metal.
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 21:22
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It took me a long time to forgive POS for Scarsick, one of my least favorite albums of the decade. When I finally did, I was pleasantly surprised. I like a band that plays what they feel rather than what is expected. And I really like the purposefully disheveled sound they used. If there is one thing that made POS less attractive to me over the years it was their excessive polish. This will go 3rd on my POS list behind BE and Concrete Lake.
The poor quality is exactly one of the things I dislike about RS1. It's one thing to have a a bit of grit in your recording; it's another to make it sound like it was recorded in a garage.
And I've never understood the hatred Scarsick gets. I can understand someone not liking it, but least favorite CD of the decade? I grant that not all the songs are good, but some are excellent.
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Posted: March 13 2011 at 18:43
^^^ Is Be that bad? I just ordered that.... RS1 is one album that is getting a lot of flack online and I wonder if its because the band are just trying something different to have some verstatility in their music ... nothing wrong with a bit of experimentation. They dont want to stagnate into the same style. The documentary on the Ending Themes DVd specifically states from the band that they do want each album to be completely different. Hopefully that wont affect their music too much.
BE is grandiose to say the least so it might rub some the wrong way. Think of it as PoS' "The Wall." The band really hit their stride with TPE and it culminated into BE. Much like WYWH-The Wall was PF creative crescendo imo. Like everything in life eventually things start to go downhill after a peak and if you're extremely lucky you get a second chance. Again, even though I don't like the direction they're headed, at least they're not stagnating like so many others have succumb to. It's a glimmer of hope that someday they'll find a new sound where the planets align for them.
I think RS1 is an excellent album, and I think the problem with PoS is that they're like Krispy Kreme donughts, you know they're tasty but not everyone likes all the flavours, while others will scoff down the whole lot and not regret a thing
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Posted: March 14 2011 at 15:01
~Rael~ wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
It took me a long time to forgive POS for Scarsick, one of my least favorite albums of the decade. When I finally did, I was pleasantly surprised. I like a band that plays what they feel rather than what is expected. And I really like the purposefully disheveled sound they used. If there is one thing that made POS less attractive to me over the years it was their excessive polish. This will go 3rd on my POS list behind BE and Concrete Lake.
The poor quality is exactly one of the things I dislike about RS1. It's one thing to have a a bit of grit in your recording; it's another to make it sound like it was recorded in a garage.
And I've never understood the hatred Scarsick gets. I can understand someone not liking it, but least favorite CD of the decade? I grant that not all the songs are good, but some are excellent.
Poor quality? The recording on RS1 is brilliant, with a deliberat attempt at making it sound like it was from the 1970's.m I think they succeded brilliantly in that regard.
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Posted: March 14 2011 at 15:16
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~Rael~ wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
It took me a long time to forgive POS for Scarsick, one of my least favorite albums of the decade. When I finally did, I was pleasantly surprised. I like a band that plays what they feel rather than what is expected. And I really like the purposefully disheveled sound they used. If there is one thing that made POS less attractive to me over the years it was their excessive polish. This will go 3rd on my POS list behind BE and Concrete Lake.
The poor quality is exactly one of the things I dislike about RS1. It's one thing to have a a bit of grit in your recording; it's another to make it sound like it was recorded in a garage.
And I've never understood the hatred Scarsick gets. I can understand someone not liking it, but least favorite CD of the decade? I grant that not all the songs are good, but some are excellent.
Poor quality? The recording on RS1 is brilliant, with a deliberat attempt at making it sound like it was from the 1970's.m I think they succeded brilliantly in that regard.
Yup.
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Posted: March 14 2011 at 15:29
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
^^^ Is Be that bad? I just ordered that.... RS1 is one album that is getting a lot of flack online and I wonder if its because the band are just trying something different to have some verstatility in their music ... nothing wrong with a bit of experimentation. They dont want to stagnate into the same style. The documentary on the Ending Themes DVd specifically states from the band that they do want each album to be completely different. Hopefully that wont affect their music too much.
The live version of Be is the better of the 2 IMHO. I think the point of it comes through on the DVD. Like I said, much of the disdain I see comes from it being less metal than previous albums. And comparisons to The Wall are not completely off base, but I find Gildenlow to be a bit less self-indulgent than Waters.
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