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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 08:12
And what of "stands the test of time" assessment ?
 
I've suggested it before, especially if we went for 10 point or 5 points with halves systems:
 
No album gets maximum unless it is at least 2 years old (therefore invite reviewers to provide reassessment of an album some time after their original review). Simply I don't believe you can give an brand new album maximum rating within days of its release and on only a few listens, it tends to indicate some lack of critical judgement/devout fanness.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 08:25
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

personally, I think current 5-star system with half stars (which is what everyone says) would be ideal


I don't say that.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 08:46
Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

[QUOTE=Triceratopsoil]personally, I think current 5-star system with half stars (which is what everyone says) would be ideal

From my experience writing reviews and rating with the 5 star system with half stars on MMA, I can say it works very well on that site. I´ve especially become very fond of the 3.5 star ratingSmile.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 08:53
^ It's called the "3.5 stars really!!!" rating LOLTongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 11:03
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

^ It's called the "3.5 stars really!!!" rating LOLTongue

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I don't know - I've been thinking about it some more and I think that the half stars make it easier to not really make a decision about where an album sits. I like that here, you have to think and make a call that it's one or the other, not in between. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 14:43
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

[QUOTE=Triceratopsoil]personally, I think current 5-star system with half stars (which is what everyone says) would be ideal

From my experience writing reviews and rating with the 5 star system with half stars on MMA, I can say it works very well on that site. I´ve especially become very fond of the 3.5 star ratingSmile.


I completely agree with Jonas. The halfstars at MMA work ideally. Although now on PA I just always round down unless I consider the album to be a 3.5-4, or 2.5-3, etc.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 14:45
Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:



I don't know - I've been thinking about it some more and I think that the half stars make it easier to not really make a decision about where an album sits. I like that here, you have to think and make a call that it's one or the other, not in between. 


That's precisely how I feel. 

If you can't decide between 3 and 4 stars, then don't review the album yet.  If you can't decide between 4 and 5 stars, then it's a 4.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 14:56
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:



I don't know - I've been thinking about it some more and I think that the half stars make it easier to not really make a decision about where an album sits. I like that here, you have to think and make a call that it's one or the other, not in between. 


That's precisely how I feel. 

If you can't decide between 3 and 4 stars, then don't review the album yet.  If you can't decide between 4 and 5 stars, then it's a 4.

Exactly this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 18:11
I think we should start rating forum topics.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 20:22
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:



I don't know - I've been thinking about it some more and I think that the half stars make it easier to not really make a decision about where an album sits. I like that here, you have to think and make a call that it's one or the other, not in between. 


That's precisely how I feel. 

If you can't decide between 3 and 4 stars, then don't review the album yet.  If you can't decide between 4 and 5 stars, then it's a 4.

Exactly this.

Same here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 21:48
I would bring it down to 2 ratings.
2 star: very good
1 star: less interesting than a 2 star rating
 
Or keep it at 5 stars for ratings, and add a calculated 6th star if it is a genuine approved masterpiece (minimun amount of ratings/reviews of 100 ratings (arbitrary), with an average above 4,7 equals absolute masterpiece) or something like that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 23:05
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

I would bring it down to 2 ratings.
2 star: very good
1 star: less interesting than a 2 star rating
 
Or keep it at 5 stars for ratings, and add a calculated 6th star if it is a genuine approved masterpiece (minimun amount of ratings/reviews of 100 ratings (arbitrary), with an average above 4,7 equals absolute masterpiece) or something like that.

Actually, I think this could be a great idea. Maybe a "certified masterpiece" logo appears on such albums?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 23:08
I don't know if that would work so well either - imagine the amount of complaining it would generate by people who don't enjoy the albums labeled as "certified masterpieces". 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 23:09

On the other end of the spectrum completely, there's also the two grade rating system. Funny Or Die's two grade rating system seems shocking at first but actually works really well. For PA it would translate to "I would pay money for this" and "I would not pay money for this." Many people find that system with no middle ground or grey areas very brutal but it sure gets the job done.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 00:40
I think we need a 100-point rating system with at least 25 descriptors, 4 of which could be applied to any given album at the same time, plus an 8-color code to assign hues and temperatures to our feelings towards particular songs in albums. A 360-pattern emoticon system could be used to describe our feelings towards each second of a song. Songs lasting more than 6 minutes would need a secondary emoticon system based on the most salient aspects of the ones in the primary group.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 00:49
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I think we need a 100-point rating system with at least 25 descriptors, 4 of which could be applied to any given album at the same time, plus an 8-color code to assign hues and temperatures to our feelings towards particular songs in albums. A 360-pattern emoticon system could be used to describe our feelings towards each second of a song. Songs lasting more than 6 minutes would need a secondary emoticon system based on the most salient aspects of the ones in the primary group.

I think we could also include a feature that lets us rate note by note, instrument by instrument, etc. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 00:56
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I think we need a 100-point rating system with at least 25 descriptors, 4 of which could be applied to any given album at the same time, plus an 8-color code to assign hues and temperatures to our feelings towards particular songs in albums. A 360-pattern emoticon system could be used to describe our feelings towards each second of a song. Songs lasting more than 6 minutes would need a secondary emoticon system based on the most salient aspects of the ones in the primary group.

I think we could also include a feature that lets us rate note by note, instrument by instrument, etc. LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 01:02
My review criteria don't/won't change for no-one.

1. Sound Quality, marked out of 10
2. Compositional Quality, marked out of 10
3. Drugspiration Level, marked out of 10
4. Spinal Tap Level, marked out of 11
5. Neighbour Annoying Level, marked out of 10
6. The X Factor Level, decided by public txt vote
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 13:40
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

[QUOTE=TheGazzardian]

I don't know - I've been thinking about it some more and I think that the half stars make it easier to not really make a decision about where an album sits. I like that here, you have to think and make a call that it's one or the other, not in between. 


That's precisely how I feel. 

If you can't decide between 3 and 4 stars, then don't review the album yet.  If you can't decide between 4 and 5 stars, then it's a 4.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 18:33
The rating system should be overhauled eventually, but only to incorperate HALF STARS.
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