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giselle ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2011 Location: Hertford Status: Offline Points: 466 |
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I don't enjoy any of these books because they never tell the truth, only peddle their own likes and dislikes.
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dEUSx ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2011 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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I would definately recomend "Prophepts & Sages - An illustrated guide to underground & progressive rock 1967-1975" by Mark Powell.
Its a good and inspiring guide to the underground and progressive rock music in the 60s and 70s. It wasn't that expencive at Play.com. £19.99 I think. But I will endeed cost me a lot more, now that I have to go out and by all that music!
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giselle ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2011 Location: Hertford Status: Offline Points: 466 |
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There's always an alternative agenda with these books and prog history in any case, even to this day. Look how an important band like1-2-3 was neatly written out of history by those who owed them the most. And that's only one instance of such blatant economy with the truth. To the victors go the spoils.
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7411 |
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This interview with Peter Banks speaks volumes! http://www.themarqueeclub.net/interview-peter-banks-yes
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Nightfly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 01 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3659 |
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I'll second that, well worth a read.
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giselle ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2011 Location: Hertford Status: Offline Points: 466 |
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12ankita34 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() spam $10/kg Joined: May 13 2011 Location: India Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Really important thread is this.By this i know many books.
Thanks for this thread |
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boysmithers ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: May 14 2011 Status: Offline Points: 24 |
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Hello, I don't think anyone's mentioned:
The music's all that matters / Paul Stump http://www.amazon.co.uk/Musics-All-That-Matters- I'm reading it at the mo.
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JeanFrame ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 01 2010 Location: London, England Status: Offline Points: 195 |
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Altti_H ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: September 17 2007 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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Hi,
One book handling the beginning of Progressive rock is Paul Stump's "The Music's All That Matters". The book is not very well written, but is a descent addition to the library. It begins from the 60's pop culture, and piece by piece describe how musicians interested in more complex music and arts begin to form grops that played the music now known as Progressive rock. I gave it 2 stars out of five. -- |
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Altti_H ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: September 17 2007 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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Al in all, I think a better way to discover the beginning of Progressive rock, is to read biography of bands and musicians.
I can recommend: Chris Welsh: "Close to The Edge: The Story Of Yes", Martyn Hanson:" Hang On To A *Dream, The Story Of The Nice" George forrester: "Emerson, Lake And Palmer, The Show That Never Ends" By reading these (and similiar) books, you will get a good picture of the development phase of Progressive Rock. -- |
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giselle ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2011 Location: Hertford Status: Offline Points: 466 |
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I don't think any of these books even mention 1-2-3, which immediately discredits them as serious studies. Chris Welsh is a personal friend of Yes, even in the pre-fame days, which says it all. The Nice/ELP have every reason to avoid the subject too. Check the more serious studies for the real truth.
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Altti_H ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: September 17 2007 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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There is as many "truts" as there is story tellers. Everybody has his own opinions. For me the beginning was The Nice, the top was ELP and everything after that is just afterglow... -- |
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giselle ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2011 Location: Hertford Status: Offline Points: 466 |
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I definitely think The Nice and Yes have early claims as forerunners, and though both bands sprang from 1-2-3, that band did not itself impact on the mainstream as the other two did, it was just too early (1966-67). King Crimson is generally looked on as the birth of the genre proper (and I agree), but for me, ELP and Yes remain two of the most crucial and important bands in defining the genre.
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Altti_H ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: September 17 2007 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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One really fine book about the history (and birth) of progressive rock is Edward Macans "
Rocking the Classics: English Progressive Rock and the Counterculture"I just bought this and it is quite entertaining.. Currently I am reading the same authors excellent book about ELP,: Endless Enigma: A Musical Biography of Emerson, Lake and PalmerThe latter may be the best and most comprehensive analyze of the music I have ever read (on popular music side). -- |
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i agree with the inclusion of this title - incredible detail on the classic prog albums and artists
Rocking the Classics: English Progressive Rock and the Counterculture" |
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I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world
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toroddfuglesteg ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Retired Joined: March 04 2008 Location: Retirement Home Status: Offline Points: 3658 |
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Let me also remind you that ProgArchives is also getting a considerable amount of interviews from this epoch. More interviews from this epoch is upcoming. Some with bands who has not spoken in public since the mid 1970s. See our interview index. Maybe we will publish these as a book in due time....... Edited by toroddfuglesteg - June 02 2011 at 10:15 |
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giselle ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2011 Location: Hertford Status: Offline Points: 466 |
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Are you sure - but it is along time since I read this book? To me it a thesis on prog rock based on examining aspects of 5 classic progressive rock albums in detail, but elsewhere there is a superficial historical overview, lack of detail, and some inaccuracies. There is, however, an Interesting attempt to indicate "typical" modern progressive rock bands(from the viewpoint of when Rocking The Classics was written), with Djam Karet about taking the honour. While brave, I have to say about as debatable and risky as Charles Shaar Murray's hypothesis in Crosstown Traffic, that if Hendrix was alive when that book was publshed, he would sound rather like Sonny Sharrock......
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