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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2009 at 02:37
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

Another related question - don't believe it wasn't asked before, but I possibly just missed it.
Was there any ideas about release of so,me PA music CD's , rarities re-release,limited editions,etc? There are huge amount of members and we have perfect market research (using voting, album rating,etc). I believe that it will be interesting for many members just to have some interesting rare musical releases,released by PA.
I am in business development around 20 yrs, may be it is a reason why I am asking such kind of questionLOL. Technical part is not a problem, don't believe there are not specialists in that are between PA-people. ( My friends own small idependent label, so I know all their kitchen as well - not a big deal). If this idea will be interesting for site Team, I believe it is not a big problem just to prepare some blueprint for realisation.
 
 


This is a very good question; I've also thought about this. The main problem is that by trying to promote various bands (with PA compilations for example) means dealing with materials whose copyright is owned by various companies/persons etc.; it's very complicated, it can be done, but a team is necessary (plenty of lawyers and accountants especially). The costs in this kind of strategy are way too high for PA.

Re-releasing rarities and out of print albums would be a better strategy. In this case you deal with less copyright owners (probably just one for each album). The problem is here that someone still has to invest quite a lot before with the hope that the money will return; pre-orders would be a good idea (who wouldn't have preordered a reissue of Anglagard's Hybris a year ago, for example? BTW it's been re-released in the meantime). One other problem would be that most likely many such materials would need remastering, which I suppose is expensive.

Signing new bands is the most difficult strategy, because this implies investing a lot in the production of the material (which is not already recorded like in the case above) and marketing (because the band would not be already known, like in the case above). In our case we have a niche market so this makes things a bit easier, but provides lesser incomes.
 
 
 
I have some experience (not direct) in this field. One of interesting thing is just release of some live recordings of interesting known bands. For sure, there are some legal things as well, but generally it is more easy way. And for sure there is no need to do it with well known albums/bands, just no reason at all. But some limited edition releases of live shows could be released without big legal problems and at low costs ( again have some experience,if someone will be interested in).
 
I think this idea could be discussed in principal level: if it is interesting at all, there could be the team formed who can work on it. If it isn't - so no reson to speak about. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2009 at 04:25
^ it's a great idea, too bad about the legalities, you'd think a mutually beneficial arrangement could be worked out

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2009 at 04:55
there are some decisons possible ( absolutely legal for sure), but not with any band . if idea works, we can discuss some details Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2009 at 07:53
Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:


One of interesting thing is just release of some live recordings of interesting known bands. For sure, there are some legal things as well, but generally it is more easy way. And for sure there is no need to do it with well known albums/bands, just no reason at all. But some limited edition releases of live shows could be released without big legal problems and at low costs ( again have some experience,if someone will be interested in).


This is theoretically a good idea, but as the public of this niche consists mostly of PA users I have to tell you that, much to my surprise, most PA users don't like live albums. This was proved by many polls and threads I've seen on PA in the last three years. Maybe re-releasing lost gems would be a better idea.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2009 at 07:54
BTW our forum colleague Angelo was planning to start a record label dedicated to exactly this - re-releasing lost gems and rare editions. I don't know what happened since he doesn't visit PA too much any more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2009 at 08:11
I am in touch with idie label doing similar things for gew years. Yes, re-releases of some excellent rare albums are attractive, where legal situation is clear ( quite often it isn't). And some live releases,or unusual live one-time projects work hardly for collectors. I am not speaking about just regular live albums.
 
But we are discussing things at the fantasy level. If decision-makers are interested, there is some ground to work. If not - it is just useless bla..bla..bla.. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2009 at 08:33
Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

But we are discussing things at the fantasy level. If decision-makers are interested, there is some ground to work. If not - it is just useless bla..bla..bla.. LOL


Isn't all we do on PA just useless bla-bla? That's what I always thought, and I've always enjoyed it Tongue I never come to PA for serious bla-bla LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 07:05
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I can see it now..."A ProgArchives exclusive, I'm pleased to announce the Wakeman Cape!"
 
Yey, put me down for one.
 
And one of those Jon Anderson shirts with the long, dangly sleeves. Cool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 07:22
I really recommend http://www.shirtcity.us ... a nice purple shirt with a orange text is quickly set up, and M@x could create his own store there and get referral fees.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 09:32
Can I have a pa gimp mask?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2009 at 15:50
Yes. Yes you can.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2009 at 06:12
This would be awesome

I'm especially in favour of the belt buckle
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2009 at 06:39
I did a design for a PA badge and sent my suggestions to  M@x some time ago, but he never got back to me about it. Ermm
 
 though here is a design for a PA "Shed/Gazebo" Tee-shirt to be going on with, designed by one of our regulars ...
 


Edited by mystic fred - December 18 2009 at 06:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2009 at 10:07
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

I did a design for a PA badge and sent my suggestions to  M@x some time ago, but he never got back to me about it. Ermm
 


Pease resend it to [email protected] , I am sorry about that, I dont' remember Confused
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