Referrence to Classical Music

Alright people, kibble_alex deserves a more serious discussion of his proposal.

And Alex - I agree that a small section on the influence of various eras of (umbrella-term) classical music on what we consider "progressive rock" would be very interesting and illustrative - as a matter of fact, I am listening right now to the 20th century composer Olivier Messiaen, who had an enormous impact on one of my favorite bands, Henry Cow.


Edited by NaturalScience - December 08 2008 at 12:57

Ok, lesson learned, let's go back to Alex's main idea. Good one - and I'll try to collaborate, if necessary. 

kibble_alex wrote: NaturalScience wrote: Alright people, kibble_alex deserves a more serious discussion of his proposal. And Alex - I agree that a small section on the influence of various eras of (umbrella-term) classical music on what we consider "progressive rock" would be very interesting and illustrative - as a matter of fact, I am listening right now to the 20th century composer Olivier Messiaen, who had an enormous impact on one of my favorite bands, Henry Cow. Ah, Messiaen. Not one of my favourite composers, maybe a little too experimental for my tastes, but I have studied his work and he is by and large one of the greatest influences unto prog, especially RIO acts such as Henry Cow (as you mentioned) and Univers Zero. By the way, thank you for putting the thread back on its rails again. I'm getting quite sick of all other reasonable threads getting trashed by certain individuals.

I'm here to serve. 

But you can see the value in your proposal right there:  newcomers to the site familiar with those RIO bands but not aware of the influence of Messiaen (I was not until quite recently) would be very interested in checking out his works.

slaver wrote: the Firebird Suite - Stravinski. Holst - the planets

Two fantastic choices.

Any admins around that would like to enforce the idea?

Vompatti wrote: "Sometimes I Just Get Stunned" would make a great title for a hair metal song.

How about "Sometimes I Get Tased, But I'd Rather Get Teased"?

Not sure where the info on Classical's influence on prog would go best, under Misc: or it's own place?  Of course, there should then also be one for Jazz.  I guess one for Rock wouldn't be necessary at this point.


Edited by Slartibartfast - December 08 2008 at 13:56

I think it's a good idea,  We should also have one for jazz artists and experimental artists.

Some names one day I'd like to see make it into articles (or, as I want, a category for non-rock artists that have had an impact on progressive rock).

Orff
Stockhausen
Glass
Coltrane
Shankar

Logan wrote: I think it's a good idea,  We should also have one for jazz artists and experimental artists. Some names one day I'd like to see make it into articles (or, as I want, a category for non-rock artists that have had an impact on progressive rock). Orff Stockhausen Glass Coltrane Shankar

That mention reminds me of philippe's electronic definition and essays mentions the evolution-related link between experimental/minimalistic/electronic forms of music in classical and the reach of the progressive electronic expressions we know.

Similarly, a bit of writing about RIO/Avant-Prog and Modern/Contemporary Classical, about the fine (or not) art of classical music covering, about Proto-Prog bands' affinity for Bach, etc.


Edited by Ricochet - December 08 2008 at 14:46

Hey - I would suggest a page or 5 within the main banner index of Progarchives but that would take someone who knows their stuff in same regard - not me, I don't know anything like enough relating to the classical music influence side of things to Prog. Am happy to help though if needed in some way. Me old Ma was a classically trained pianist of concert quality apparantly - we just weren't priviliged in SA enough then to have had her go that route. She's a Liszt fan though - through and through.

Windhawk wrote: Slaver - I am somewhat insulted in you mentioning Hall of the Mountain King as a work of Mussorgsky. I do hope that one came out wrong....if not you better read up a bit on classical music mate ;-)

Yeah...Mussorgski focused on a different mountain.

fandango wrote: Ricochet wrote: Yeah...Mussorgski focused on a different mountain.   one with no clothes on, if I remember rightly?...

Actually with no hair on...