"Studio Improvisation" artists... bad/good?

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   I don't think anyone should worry about whether a musician or group is "objectively" (I hate that word) good or not, because there's no way to determine that at all. Listen to the stuff you like, and don't listen to the stuff you don't like. 

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Philéas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419	Posted: October 27 2007 at 09:55
	I don't think anyone should worry about whether a musician or group is "objectively" (I hate that word) good or not, because there's no way to determine that at all. Listen to the stuff you like, and don't listen to the stuff you don't like.

MadcapLaughs84 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 21 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 658	Posted: October 27 2007 at 09:35
	I think balance is the best option, but there are some bands that really exceed that tool they have to create something, but there's when a good producer should re-focus all that hurricane of creativity and use some good parts of that improvisation.


Finnforest Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17408	Posted: October 27 2007 at 09:30
	It is an interesting question. There are some moments in music that could either be the work of a master, or a 5 year old having great fun having escaped into the studio. Same with modern painting frankly. I'm sure some 5 year olds have often created works that average people could not tell from a Pollack style professional piece in a museam. So Clarke2001 probably nails it here: if you like it, it's great.
	...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"

Thandrus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 05 2007 Location: Georgia Status: Offline Points: 402	Posted: October 27 2007 at 08:15
	Alright but someone[s having greater success in it and someone - lesser. So could some criteria (if there are any) be defined?

clarke2001 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160	Posted: October 27 2007 at 08:13
	If you like it, it's good. If you don't , it's not. The artist deserves a help of little bit of randomness during making his art. Why not? However, this is highly debatable topic. I would like to see the way it will develop.
	Percussion, sir!

Thandrus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 05 2007 Location: Georgia Status: Offline Points: 402	Posted: October 27 2007 at 08:12
	Maurizio Bianchi and Nurse With Wound for example, ambient makers (Biosphere, Lustmord) and many others... Edited by Thandrus - October 27 2007 at 08:13

Easy Livin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585	Posted: October 27 2007 at 07:49
	Any examples of bands are albums you are thinking of?

Thandrus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 05 2007 Location: Georgia Status: Offline Points: 402	Posted: October 27 2007 at 07:27
	Hi guys, I was just thinking about albums made by tape looping, electronic manipulations and other "non-instrumental" sources... And I got the feeling that quite bit of it is made in whatever-it-will-be mode... I mean they just record not knowing how it will sound... Complete improvisation, to put it short. So my question is: how we could differ in this kind of musicians who is bad and who is good?