Porcupine Tree vs Dream Theater

Melomaniac wrote: micky wrote: jesus .... .whoever started this poll should rot... you have earned my eternal rage  hahahha Dream Theater... and I am not a fan. ... by a mile.  Dream Theater may be w**kers in search of melody... but they were far more progressive than PT.  PT is some great music...  but not exactly the most progressive I've ever heard.  At least we an credit DT for defining an established genre of progressive rock. Micky, YOU, voting for DT in a poll ?     RAFF, GET IN HERE, MICKY IS GUILTY OF HERESY !!!

I know... However, I'm afraid he's right in this respect, and I have to agree with him. This doesn't mean I prefer DT to PT, far from that.... I listen to PT quite often, while I've never been able to listen to anything by DT but  I&W more than twice. However, I think PT's progressive quotient (especially if we are talking of the band's sound nowadays) is rather exaggerated.

Now, if the poll question had been, "which is better?", of course I'd have voted for PT. As things stand, I won't vote for either one - just express my opinion.

Well....
If you consider one single track, I'd have to say that DT are proggier : more variations, more rythm changes, etc...
But if you consider a whole album or the whole discography, I'd go with PT, who progress way more than DT who can't escape their sound. I'd even quote a critic who said (about another band though) that "they have become their own tribute band"... Their latest album clearly shows that. Nothing new, an impression of deja-vu all along. Whereas PT have never had two albums of the same taste, and they continue to prove it with their latest 2007 releases (NR & FOABP). So my vote goes to PT.

These bands have nothing in common. Oddly enough I'm listening to Systematic Chaos now. Anyway  PT is my favorite band of all time, and are definitely much better songwritters. Technically, DT are better musicians but  PT are something very unique and beautiful.

This is not a question of which is your favorite, but which is more progressive.  Mine goes for DT.

proghairfunk wrote: This is not a question of which is your favorite, but which is more progressive.  Mine goes for DT.

do you mean it was a stupid thing for me to say, or a stupid thing for my friend to say?

Melomaniac wrote: Porcupine Tree are more experimental than DT ever will be, and they have proved to be able AND competent at different approaches throughout their career, whereas DT have their own sound they so rarely derivate from.   To me, PT is more progressive than DT.

ghost_of_morphy wrote: The T wrote: As great as PT is on disc, live they're not so good... I was there this wednesday in Orlando... they don't put the great performance that other lesser bands put...no solos, no interaction, Wilson makes mistakes (he forgot the lyrics of Blackest Eyes) and too many unknown songs..... That fact alone makes my (already made) decision even a stronger one : DT!   They were pretty decent on that tour when  they opened for Yes.

You can't be "more" prog.

It's like being dead. If you died of a disease right now, and your heart stopped, you'd be dead. If I shot you then, you wouldn't be "more" dead, 'cause you were already dead.

So, in short, Porcupine Tree is WAY more progressive than DT.

micky wrote: schizoid_man77 wrote: yoel? wrote: I set this poll up because i was having an argument, or like a discussion with a friend and I said porcupine tree were more 'proggy' than dream theater and alot weirder and 'out there' and i had a list of arguments I cant be bothered to type out here, anyway he said that dream theater were  proggier, for reasons that I dont understand becuase he said 'you have to play guitar to understand the reasons' things like difference in rhythm etc, anyway I was wondering what the opinion on here is   What a stupid thing to say. I am an avid guitar player and Petrucci reminds me never to lose my restraint! whoa....  how's this for stupid.  I don't give a f**k if you  are Eric Johnson....  try learning  a little respect for other posters.  Unless you want to find your opinions belittled and ridiculed.  Trust me...  it can be easily done once the facade of respect is worn away.