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E-Dub 
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 Posted: September 06 2007 at 10:35 |
 TheProgtologist wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Well...I can see noone seems to care but I can't wait for the season to start.
Which is tomorrow. |
I care man,I live for football.
I've just been busy,that's all.
I am not happy with the Ravens pre-season AT ALL. |
Keep in mind that last year Oakland was 4-0 in the preseason, and they stunk worse than canal water during the season. Preseason isn't a very good gauge. E
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 13:08 |
E-Dub wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Well...I can see noone seems to care but I can't wait for the season to start.
Which is tomorrow. |
I care man,I live for football.
I've just been busy,that's all.
I am not happy with the Ravens pre-season AT ALL. |
Keep
in mind that last year Oakland was 4-0 in the preseason, and they stunk
worse than canal water during the season. Preseason isn't a very good
gauge.
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True, I've been pretty busy also.
And yea, preseason really dosn't mean a thing. Although the Giants
still will be mediocre at best. F*cking Tiki Barber....I KNEW he
retired because of Tom Coughlin....I mean if it wasnt for Coughlin
Tiki's career would not have gone the way it did.
One more year away from the Hall of Fame IMO 
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Garion81
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 13:17 |
E-Dub wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Well...I can see noone seems to care but I can't wait for the season to start.
Which is tomorrow. |
I care man,I live for football.
I've just been busy,that's all.
I am not happy with the Ravens pre-season AT ALL. |
Keep in mind that last year Oakland was 4-0 in the preseason, and they stunk worse than canal water during the season. Preseason isn't a very good gauge.
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True enough but you can gauge certain things in Pre season. For instance Oakland won all of those games last year in the 4th quarter. When their 1's were left the field they were behind in every one of those games. This year Oaklands 1's did pretty well except against Seattle. I think they will be much more competitive this year.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?"
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Greg W
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 21:37 |
Ah, hope springs eternal at the beginning of a new NFL season. Everybody starts at 0-0 and it has proven before, no matter how good or bad your team was a year ago, doesn't mean they will suffer/thrive through a similiar year this year.
For the first time since the Gruden days, I am stoked for the Raiders to make that comeback. The defense has gained a fine edge and if we can wipe away our embarrassing offensive performance from last year, I totally believe we can rise back into respectabilty. It all is going to stem on our offensive line's progress this year, which I believe they will pass the test and we may even be able to surprise some opponants. Who knows, if we can grab a few early victories , nothing can hone a team into a fine working machine than success. Wins breeds confidence and confidence breeds success.
Watch out Denver , Kansas City and San Diego....the Raiders are back to bully the neighborhood boys once again!!, Muh Ha HA!!
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fungusucantkill
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 22:24 |
hooray for the Saints  
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 22:37 |
Greg W wrote:
Ah, hope springs eternal at the beginning of a new NFL season. Everybody starts at 0-0 and it has proven before, no matter how good or bad your team was a year ago, doesn't mean they will suffer/thrive through a similiar year this year.
For the first time since the Gruden days, I am stoked for the Raiders to make that comeback. The defense has gained a fine edge and if we can wipe away our embarrassing offensive performance from last year, I totally believe we can rise back into respectabilty. It all is going to stem on our offensive line's progress this year, which I believe they will pass the test and we may even be able to surprise some opponants. Who knows, if we can grab a few early victories , nothing can hone a team into a fine working machine than success. Wins breeds confidence and confidence breeds success.
Watch out Denver , Kansas City and San Diego....the Raiders are back to bully the neighborhood boys once again!!, Muh Ha HA!! |
Man, how do you figure that? Nobody wants to coach for Davis, nobody wants to play for Davis. Oakland will become a powerhouse once Grandpa Al hangs up pimp glasses and slowly settles into society's underbelly.  E
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Greg W
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 23:19 |
E-Dub wrote:
Greg W wrote:
Ah, hope springs eternal at the beginning of a new NFL season. Everybody starts at 0-0 and it has proven before, no matter how good or bad your team was a year ago, doesn't mean they will suffer/thrive through a similiar year this year.
For the first time since the Gruden days, I am stoked for the Raiders to make that comeback. The defense has gained a fine edge and if we can wipe away our embarrassing offensive performance from last year, I totally believe we can rise back into respectabilty. It all is going to stem on our offensive line's progress this year, which I believe they will pass the test and we may even be able to surprise some opponants. Who knows, if we can grab a few early victories , nothing can hone a team into a fine working machine than success. Wins breeds confidence and confidence breeds success.
Watch out Denver , Kansas City and San Diego....the Raiders are back to bully the neighborhood boys once again!!, Muh Ha HA!! |
Man, how do you figure that? Nobody wants to coach for Davis, nobody wants to play for Davis. Oakland will become a powerhouse once Grandpa Al hangs up pimp glasses and slowly settles into society's underbelly.
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Well, we will soon find out, won't we. Remember, it wasnt that long ago when we were kicking ass. And show some respect for MR Al Davis. If it wasn't for him, there would have been no forced merger of the AFL and NFL and we wouldn't even have a superbowl. We owe much to him for this great sport.
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Dim
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 23:22 |
As none of you know until now..
I AM A BILLS FAN!!!
...and were going all the way to third place in the AL east this year!!!
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Greg W
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 23:38 |
E-Dub wrote:
Greg W wrote:
Ah, hope springs eternal at the beginning of a new NFL season. Everybody starts at 0-0 and it has proven before, no matter how good or bad your team was a year ago, doesn't mean they will suffer/thrive through a similiar year this year.
For the first time since the Gruden days, I am stoked for the Raiders to make that comeback. The defense has gained a fine edge and if we can wipe away our embarrassing offensive performance from last year, I totally believe we can rise back into respectabilty. It all is going to stem on our offensive line's progress this year, which I believe they will pass the test and we may even be able to surprise some opponants. Who knows, if we can grab a few early victories , nothing can hone a team into a fine working machine than success. Wins breeds confidence and confidence breeds success.
Watch out Denver , Kansas City and San Diego....the Raiders are back to bully the neighborhood boys once again!!, Muh Ha HA!! |
Man, how do you figure that? Nobody wants to coach for Davis, nobody wants to play for Davis. Oakland will become a powerhouse once Grandpa Al hangs up pimp glasses and slowly settles into society's underbelly.
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Ah, A Chief's fan. That explains it. Jealous of our 5 Superbowls??  The only thing worse than a Broncos fan is a Ch....no wait, there is nothing worse than a Broncos fan. 
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Chicapah
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 08:46 |
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I picked the Colts to win last night but I didn't think the Saints would fail to show up at all!
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 08:53 |
Greg W wrote:
E-Dub wrote:
Greg W wrote:
Ah, hope springs eternal at the beginning of a new NFL season. Everybody starts at 0-0 and it has proven before, no matter how good or bad your team was a year ago, doesn't mean they will suffer/thrive through a similiar year this year.
For the first time since the Gruden days, I am stoked for the Raiders to make that comeback. The defense has gained a fine edge and if we can wipe away our embarrassing offensive performance from last year, I totally believe we can rise back into respectabilty. It all is going to stem on our offensive line's progress this year, which I believe they will pass the test and we may even be able to surprise some opponants. Who knows, if we can grab a few early victories , nothing can hone a team into a fine working machine than success. Wins breeds confidence and confidence breeds success.
Watch out Denver , Kansas City and San Diego....the Raiders are back to bully the neighborhood boys once again!!, Muh Ha HA!! |
Man, how do you figure that? Nobody wants to coach for Davis, nobody wants to play for Davis. Oakland will become a powerhouse once Grandpa Al hangs up pimp glasses and slowly settles into society's underbelly.
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Well, we will soon find out, won't we. Remember, it wasnt that long ago when we were kicking ass. And show some respect for MR Al Davis. If it wasn't for him, there would have been no forced merger of the AFL and NFL and we wouldn't even have a superbowl. We owe much to him for this great sport. |
A share (if not the majority) of that thanks should go to the late
Lamar Hunt for bringing the two together. The respect that man had
throughout the league and sports in general can only be claimed by a
handful of people. So, don't kid yourself because Greasy Al didn't do it alone. The outpouring when Mr. Hunt passed away was
amazing...we'll see if it's the same for Al. E
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 08:57 |
Greg W wrote:
E-Dub wrote:
Greg W wrote:
Ah, hope springs eternal at the beginning of a new NFL season. Everybody starts at 0-0 and it has proven before, no matter how good or bad your team was a year ago, doesn't mean they will suffer/thrive through a similiar year this year.
For the first time since the Gruden days, I am stoked for the Raiders to make that comeback. The defense has gained a fine edge and if we can wipe away our embarrassing offensive performance from last year, I totally believe we can rise back into respectabilty. It all is going to stem on our offensive line's progress this year, which I believe they will pass the test and we may even be able to surprise some opponants. Who knows, if we can grab a few early victories , nothing can hone a team into a fine working machine than success. Wins breeds confidence and confidence breeds success.
Watch out Denver , Kansas City and San Diego....the Raiders are back to bully the neighborhood boys once again!!, Muh Ha HA!! |
Man, how do you figure that? Nobody wants to coach for Davis, nobody wants to play for Davis. Oakland will become a powerhouse once Grandpa Al hangs up pimp glasses and slowly settles into society's underbelly.
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Ah, A Chief's fan. That explains it. Jealous of our 5 Superbowls?? The only thing worse than a Broncos fan is a Ch....no wait, there is nothing worse than a Broncos fan. |
I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't jealous. Not sure what the point is, but I'd still rather be a Chiefs fan with the fraction of Super Bowl appearances than a Raiders fan. Oakland is the least of my concerns right now. I only hope we can show up for the Green Bay game so I don't have to hear it from my Wisconsin in-laws this Christmas. And yes, there's nothing worse than a Broncos fan. E
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 09:06 |
JJLehto wrote:
E-Dub wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Well...I can see noone seems to care but I can't wait for the season to start.
Which is tomorrow. |
I care man,I live for football.
I've just been busy,that's all.
I am not happy with the Ravens pre-season AT ALL. |
Keep in mind that last year Oakland was 4-0 in the preseason, and they stunk worse than canal water during the season. Preseason isn't a very good gauge.
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True, I've been pretty busy also.
And yea, preseason really dosn't mean a thing. Although the Giants still will be mediocre at best. F*cking Tiki Barber....I KNEW he retired because of Tom Coughlin....I mean if it wasnt for Coughlin Tiki's career would not have gone the way it did.
One more year away from the Hall of Fame IMO
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While I don't think pre-season is a totally accurate way to gauge how your team will play in the regular season,I do think it is a good way to evaluate teams.It is a great way to see how your second team plays,and with injuries playing a key part in an NFL season,your second team players can suddenly become very important.
I was surprised to see the Colts blow out the Saints last night,I wasn't expecting the Colts to be as strong offensively this year.They last some key players at the end of last season,particularly on their offensive line.
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jimidom
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 12:09 |
Chicapah wrote:
They start counting tonight. As much as I like my Cowboys I foresee a Chargers vs. Saints Super Bowl. |
I'm a Cowboys fan too. If Romo can keep his head in the game and off Carrie Underwood, I think they'll be OK. As for the Super Bowl, I'm thinking Colts vs. Saints, aside from how things went last night for the Saints. The Colts looked awfully good.
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 13:18 |
jimidom wrote:
Chicapah wrote:
They start counting tonight. As much as I like my Cowboys I foresee a Chargers vs. Saints Super Bowl. |
I'm a Cowboys fan too. If Romo can keep his head in the game and off Carrie Underwood, I think they'll be OK. As for the Super Bowl, I'm thinking Colts vs. Saints, aside from how things went last night for the Saints. The Colts looked awfully good. |
Easier said than done. Girl is hotter than doughnut grease. E
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Greg W
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 15:53 |
E-Dub wrote:
Greg W wrote:
E-Dub wrote:
Greg W wrote:
Ah, hope springs eternal at the beginning of a new NFL season. Everybody starts at 0-0 and it has proven before, no matter how good or bad your team was a year ago, doesn't mean they will suffer/thrive through a similiar year this year.
For the first time since the Gruden days, I am stoked for the Raiders to make that comeback. The defense has gained a fine edge and if we can wipe away our embarrassing offensive performance from last year, I totally believe we can rise back into respectabilty. It all is going to stem on our offensive line's progress this year, which I believe they will pass the test and we may even be able to surprise some opponants. Who knows, if we can grab a few early victories , nothing can hone a team into a fine working machine than success. Wins breeds confidence and confidence breeds success.
Watch out Denver , Kansas City and San Diego....the Raiders are back to bully the neighborhood boys once again!!, Muh Ha HA!! |
Man, how do you figure that? Nobody wants to coach for Davis, nobody wants to play for Davis. Oakland will become a powerhouse once Grandpa Al hangs up pimp glasses and slowly settles into society's underbelly.
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Ah, A Chief's fan. That explains it. Jealous of our 5 Superbowls?? The only thing worse than a Broncos fan is a Ch....no wait, there is nothing worse than a Broncos fan. |
I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't jealous. Not sure what the point is, but I'd still rather be a Chiefs fan with the fraction of Super Bowl appearances than a Raiders fan. Oakland is the least of my concerns right now. I only hope we can show up for the Green Bay game so I don't have to hear it from my Wisconsin in-laws this Christmas.
And yes, there's nothing worse than a Broncos fan.
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Oh, BTW...I was born and raised in Wisconsin. Don't get me wrong. My #1 team will ALWAYS be the Raiders. But the Packers are my #2. I love the Pack as well, and I am hoping they make a big splash by continuing their momentum with their promising end to last season.. They won their final 4 games convincingly and the defense has shrugged off that embarrassing mediocre performance they had the year before last.
I think they could sneak into the playoffs this year. My only worry is their revamped running core of unproven hopefuls. What a great way for Favre to leave if it happens. I admire the heck out of that guy. He's a great athlete as well as a class act.He epitomizes everything that is right about pro football. I'll be sad to see him go, but time takes its toll on everyone and it is clear his playing days are numbered.
Go PACK!!(Except when they play the Raiders, of course)
...Anyways.., E-dub. I could sense your emotions for your team getting the best of you. I respected Lamar Hunt as well. I never really thought of him as the enemy the way the Chiefs and Broncos are to the Raiders. To me, he was a great icon to football, not just an icon to the Chief's organization.
I wish you good luck this year...just not TOO much. my predictions
Denver
San Diego
Oakland
Chiefs
sorry...its a tough division and I can't bear to place my Raiders at the bottom for yet another season 
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 16:06 |
So the Colts are undefeated this year!!
I want to say the Chargers will win the Super Bowl, following recent history they should.
But those Patriots and pretty boy Tom Brady, I don't know..
And for my personal team....I am just hoping the Giants won't be LAST in the nl east
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rushfan4
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 16:08 |
Let me just say that the Lions are going to win 10 games this year, and then go on to win the Super Bowl.
I also think that Invisible Touch is Genesis' best album, Open Your Eyes is Yes' best album, and Love Beach is ELP's best album.
Mandatory drug testing anyone!!!!???
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Garion81
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 16:10 |
To be fair to Lamar Hunt and Al Davis Mr Hunt did a lot of negations for the merger after the NFL was willing to talk. Mr Davis strategy as commissioner of the AFL forced the bidding war that brought top college talent and NFL players to the AFL that forced the NFL to start talking.
Of course both of their franchises were cornerstones in the AFL's growth in the mid to late 60's and played some of the most spectacular games against each other I have ever seen. They were like two college rivals going at it. It took the Bronco's 17 years to get where these guys were. Both teams have had ups and downs but still one of the greatest rivalries in Sports.
E-dub you need to see the new offense the Raiders are showing this year. I have seen all 4 preseason games and this offense is nothing like last year. I am not saying it will be outstanding but the Raiders will score more this year. I am looking for 7-8 wins. With the Defense they have if the offense can score 20+ points a game and hold the ball even time throught the game they will be in every game they play.
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 16:20 |
..........Don't the Raiders have that one guy......what was his name? That uh number ONE draft pick that is still unsigned?
I think the Raiders WILL be better. Problem is they were 2-14 so better won't be great, AND there's the Chargers in their division.
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