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Barla
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 12:45 |
Dream Theater by far ...
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dagrush
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 12:56 |
D T
It's not quite as effective to letter that one vertically.
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 13:18 |
I'd have to say DT, as they got me into prog in the first place!
However, Tool is becoming one of my top bands these days. Its just....all their stuff seems to have the same feel to it *albeit an awesome one* whereas DT's sound changes throughout their career more. Not that Tool's doesnt, just not to as drastic a degree. However, props to Tool for the whole Fibonacci thing on Lateralus
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memowakeman
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 13:34 |
I dont know id DT is better than Tool, what im sure is that i prefer DT much more than Tool
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Aspiring hope
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Joined: April 03 2006
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 14:25 |
In spite of preferences and subjective demeanours to aid in selection,
the thread inquires over the best, thus I'd figure it's an overall
array of qualities both bands offer to conflict, rather than personal
affinities. It's somewhat disturbing to compare the two bands, since
there are strikingly distinct styles displayed from each (infact, there
would be a manifest difference with whichever band co-starred with
Tool, in such comparison, taking their work is absolutely unique to a
degree of unimaginable emulation), nevertheless, Tool are known to
extend their potential, almost chronologically, with each album
released, as not only is an egregiously recognised, artful creation
(perhaps, not as much or as noticeable as Dream Theater) surmounting
the previous' creative facade (controversial to consider Lateralus and
10,000 Days), as it draws a consistent identidy for musicianship
brilliance, together with its infamously sullen ambience, ever so
clamoured for fan's ears. An impressive overlapping of very good (but
not deifyed) technical skill to recreate nearly legend-worthy
masterpieces. Facing the proportional ratius of creativity to
technique, Dream Theater may not level Tool in its evolutionary growth,
yet they don't fall much behind such line; also, Dream Theater doesn't
really fail to deliver progressively ripe affairs of qualitative
ascendence, throughout time, as each album eludes unoriginal echoes of
anterior accomplishments to conspicuously acknowledged themes, coherent
with the band's main essence. Regardless of infamous reluctance to
aception and obcessive consumption, DT construct an alternate poise of
structural/creative excellence for their work, aside from the
mainstream proximities their legions of fans might indulge to surmise
(in exception for what has happened in Falling Into Infinity, which was
contradictory to the band's will, and Octavarium, which I cannot yet
explain) - the sound adheres to both prog and metal influences, along
with favouring of people's respective tendencies of metal, overwhelmed
by what progressive rock yields the tone of, thus its popularity, and
after all: they ARE enlisted under the progressive metal category.
Nourishing the praise, stands each member's adroit supremacy in the
manipulated instrument, technically surpassing any musician from Tool
(voice isn't encompassed among the axiom - Maynard is better than
LaBrie, in my opinion), and what others unfortunately deem as a
gargantuan ego of some sort to display and optimize their capacities, I
see not as an obstruction to mellifluous/audible/cohese streams of
music (as was defined before, amongst the text), but a realistic
conception of virtuosism, wielded in sheerly laudative flair - if one
is able to do so without compromising an efficacious flux, why not
reach a maximum skill drawn from talent and evolve, breaching limits
that bind the being, itself? Anyhow, the truth really looms as an
opinion, since we are all subjected to our senses, no matter how
objective, and I voted for Dream Theater (in spite of how obvious it
is)...oh, and, by the way: "Sorry for the short set".
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 14:28 |
Tool all the way.
DT's vocals make them cheesy
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MajesterX
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Joined: December 30 2005
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 14:29 |
Aspiring hope wrote:
In spite of preferences and subjective demeanours to aid in selection,
the thread inquires over the best, thus I'd figure it's an overall
array of qualities both bands offer to conflict, rather than personal
affinities. It's somewhat disturbing to compare the two bands, since
there are strikingly distinct styles displayed from each (infact, there
would be a manifest difference with whichever band co-starred with
Tool, in such comparison, taking their work is absolutely unique to a
degree of unimaginable emulation), nevertheless, Tool are known to
extend their potential, almost chronologically, with each album
released, as not only is an egregiously recognised, artful creation
(perhaps, not as much or as noticeable as Dream Theater) surmounting
the previous' creative facade (controversial to consider Lateralus and
10,000 Days), as it draws a consistent identidy for musicianship
brilliance, together with its infamously sullen ambience, ever so
clamoured for fan's ears. An impressive overlapping of very good (but
not deifyed) technical skill to recreate nearly legend-worthy
masterpieces. Facing the proportional ratius of creativity to
technique, Dream Theater may not level Tool in its evolutionary growth,
yet they don't fall much behind such line; also, Dream Theater doesn't
really fail to deliver progressively ripe affairs of qualitative
ascendence, throughout time, as each album eludes unoriginal echoes of
anterior accomplishments to conspicuously acknowledged themes, coherent
with the band's main essence. Regardless of infamous reluctance to
aception and obcessive consumption, DT construct an alternate poise of
structural/creative excellence for their work, aside from the
mainstream proximities their legions of fans might indulge to surmise
(in exception for what has happened in Falling Into Infinity, which was
contradictory to the band's will, and Octavarium, which I cannot yet
explain) - the sound adheres to both prog and metal influences, along
with favouring of people's respective tendencies of metal, overwhelmed
by what progressive rock yields the tone of, thus its popularity, and
after all: they ARE enlisted under the progressive metal category.
Nourishing the praise, stands each member's adroit supremacy in the
manipulated instrument, technically surpassing any musician from Tool
(voice isn't encompassed among the axiom - Maynard is better than
LaBrie, in my opinion), and what others unfortunately deem as a
gargantuan ego of some sort to display and optimize their capacities, I
see not as an obstruction to mellifluous/audible/cohese streams of
music (as was defined before, amongst the text), but a realistic
conception of virtuosism, wielded in sheerly laudative flair - if one
is able to do so without compromising an efficacious flux, why not
reach a maximum skill drawn from talent and evolve, breaching limits
that bind the being, itself? Anyhow, the truth really looms as an
opinion, since we are all subjected to our senses, no matter how
objective, and I voted for Dream Theater (in spite of how obvious it
is)...oh, and, by the way: "Sorry for the short set".
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Dirk
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 14:49 |
Dream theater, they are more melodic than Tool. Scenes from metropolis is quit good. I don't dislike Tool, i heard Lateralus several times and it doesn't annoy me.I just have a hard time remembering the melodies from the album once it is finished. I'll probably give it another try in due time.
Edited by Dirk - May 21 2006 at 15:05
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GuilhermeDrigo
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 15:56 |
Tool is excelent and so is Dream Theater
i can't see a way to compare them but i stay with Dream Theater
because of their musicians
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Trickster F.
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 16:04 |
None of them is even close to my favourites, but Tool by far.
-- Ivan
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Rorro
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 16:08 |
DT by far IMO.
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Tholomyes
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 17:33 |
i like all Tool albums, and only two of DT, so my vote goes for Tool.
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eddietrooper
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 17:34 |
I like both but I find Tool more monotonous and less surprising, less varied, less dynamic than Dream Theater.
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The Ryan
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 17:35 |
Well since I find Tool to be a knockoff of so many other bands that have come out in the past 17-18 years I'm going to have to go with Dream Theater. A band that can hold my attention for more then 90 seconds.
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Serguilloche
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 17:38 |
Dream Theater without a doubt, there is no contest.
Greater songs, more entertaining musicians.
Tool are just really annoying, I feel like punching that poseur who sings for them.
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Figglesnout
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 18:35 |
While I'm not a huge fan of Tool, I do enjoy them on occasion and I've been really enjoying the new release lately, whereas with Dream Theater I can only stand one album in full--the others are complete and utter cheese for the ears (in my opinion). SO, therefore I'm going to vot Tool, and I would each and every following day.
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xtopher
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 19:05 |
I vote Dream Theater. I don't know what it is, but Tool just kind of seems to bore me. Perhaps they don't seem versatile enough for my tastes. On the other hand, versatility is something Dream Theater has in spades. Not to knock those who voted for Tool, though.
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Marc Baum
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 19:52 |
From a emotional, personal connection standpoint DT by a landmile, since I got all their studio albums (except the useless cover albums) and saw them live two times. But I have to say Tool impress me always with their experimental, innovative sound. They are IMO the new King Crimson of the 21st century. Forget the stupid nu-metal comparisons, these are dull coments by some one-dimensional purists with no sensibilitys for innovations. My vote goes to DT though.
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Bj-1
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 20:00 |
Haven't heard much Tool (only Lateralus, which I find excellent) But I think DT is great, but I have to hear more Tool before I decide.
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coffeeintheface
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 20:35 |
Aspiring hope wrote:
In spite of preferences and subjective demeanours to aid in selection,
the thread inquires over the best, thus I'd figure it's an overall
array of qualities both bands offer to conflict, rather than personal
affinities. It's somewhat disturbing to compare the two bands, since
there are strikingly distinct styles displayed from each (infact, there
would be a manifest difference with whichever band co-starred with
Tool, in such comparison, taking their work is absolutely unique to a
degree of unimaginable emulation), nevertheless, Tool are known to
extend their potential, almost chronologically, with each album
released, as not only is an egregiously recognised, artful creation
(perhaps, not as much or as noticeable as Dream Theater) surmounting
the previous' creative facade (controversial to consider Lateralus and
10,000 Days), as it draws a consistent identidy for musicianship
brilliance, together with its infamously sullen ambience, ever so
clamoured for fan's ears. An impressive overlapping of very good (but
not deifyed) technical skill to recreate nearly legend-worthy
masterpieces. Facing the proportional ratius of creativity to
technique, Dream Theater may not level Tool in its evolutionary growth,
yet they don't fall much behind such line; also, Dream Theater doesn't
really fail to deliver progressively ripe affairs of qualitative
ascendence, throughout time, as each album eludes unoriginal echoes of
anterior accomplishments to conspicuously acknowledged themes, coherent
with the band's main essence. Regardless of infamous reluctance to
aception and obcessive consumption, DT construct an alternate poise of
structural/creative excellence for their work, aside from the
mainstream proximities their legions of fans might indulge to surmise
(in exception for what has happened in Falling Into Infinity, which was
contradictory to the band's will, and Octavarium, which I cannot yet
explain) - the sound adheres to both prog and metal influences, along
with favouring of people's respective tendencies of metal, overwhelmed
by what progressive rock yields the tone of, thus its popularity, and
after all: they ARE enlisted under the progressive metal category.
Nourishing the praise, stands each member's adroit supremacy in the
manipulated instrument, technically surpassing any musician from Tool
(voice isn't encompassed among the axiom - Maynard is better than
LaBrie, in my opinion), and what others unfortunately deem as a
gargantuan ego of some sort to display and optimize their capacities, I
see not as an obstruction to mellifluous/audible/cohese streams of
music (as was defined before, amongst the text), but a realistic
conception of virtuosism, wielded in sheerly laudative flair - if one
is able to do so without compromising an efficacious flux, why not
reach a maximum skill drawn from talent and evolve, breaching limits
that bind the being, itself? Anyhow, the truth really looms as an
opinion, since we are all subjected to our senses, no matter how
objective, and I voted for Dream Theater (in spite of how obvious it
is)...oh, and, by the way: "Sorry for the short set".
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