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aapatsos 
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 Posted: February 06 2006 at 17:56 |
 sularetal wrote:
Let me ask you a question....
Which PROG (not jazz) band's drumming do u think is good. Cause Danny is one of the best in prog metal (if you consider them prog metal anyway).
Tool to me was never about trying to be progressive.... Never liked them cause of their melodies or time signatures, never considered maynard to be a god, I just love them cause they are doing something completely different from anything I've listened so far. I think that they sound quite original...
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sularetal
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 18:27 |
^^^
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Drew
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 18:35 |
The only thing I can remotely agree with you is the lyrics- I can't STAND their lyrics- but to say the drumming is sloppy- and the singing is bad? 
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 18:39 |
FuzzyDude wrote:
My son loaned me Lateralus by Tool and told me it was a great prog metal album. I've been listening to it for a week now and I still think it sounds like crap. The bassist is very talented, but the guitar playing is generic chord bouncing without any melody whatsoever and the drumming is sloppy.
The worst part is definitely the vocalist. Not his singing per se, which isn't bad, even if he doesn't seem to grasp the concept of vocal melodies. But the LYRICS!! My god, who wrote this crap?! Pat Robertson? He sounds like a child trying to impress his friends in Sunday school. Except for this one song, which is your typical 'I hate everyone' rant.
My question though is this. I don't know if Lateralus is considered a good album or as equally derided by the rest of the musical community. I'm not a Tool fan, in fact I'm hoping the rest of their work is better than this. Someone please instruct me!! |
I am very sorry to hear the news. Please accept my condolences.
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Rising Force
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 18:45 |
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I see where you're coming from. I personally find Lateralus to be unenergetic and dull. When I want to listen to metal, I need something with more balls.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 18:47 |
Manunkind wrote:
The drummer also plays in a fusion band called Volto, I think.
Anyway, Lateralus is generally considered Tool's best, so there you go.
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Besides Tool,Danny Carey plays in a hardcore/punk band called Pigmy Love Circus,has a project coming out soon called Zaum that will utilize his beloved electronic drums and vintage drum synthesizers,and does some drum work on Adrian Belew's Side One and Side Three solo albums.
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Drew
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 18:52 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Manunkind wrote:
The drummer also plays in a fusion band called Volto, I think.
Anyway, Lateralus is generally considered Tool's best, so there you go.
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Besides Tool,Danny Carey plays in a hardcore/punk band called Pigmy Love Circus,has a project coming out soon called Zaum that will utilize his beloved electronic drums and vintage drum synthesizers,and does some drum work on Adrian Belew's Side One and Side Three solo albums.
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and when can I buy this???!?!?!?!?!
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 18:52 |
Ty1020 wrote:
FuzzyDude wrote:
the drumming is sloppy. |
Oh, come on. I don't like Tool at all, but that's just ridiculous. At least give credit where credit is due.
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I agree.Danny Carey is one of the most accomplished,technical drummers playing today,and to call his drumming sloppy shows just how little about music the poster actually knows.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 19:00 |
Drew wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Manunkind wrote:
The drummer also plays in a fusion band called Volto, I think.
Anyway, Lateralus is generally considered Tool's best, so there you go.
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Besides Tool,Danny Carey plays in a hardcore/punk band called Pigmy Love Circus,has a project coming out soon called Zaum that will utilize his beloved electronic drums and vintage drum synthesizers,and does some drum work on Adrian Belew's Side One and Side Three solo albums.
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and when can I buy this???!?!?!?!?!
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Zaum hasn't released anything yet,but should this year.
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Drew
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 19:01 |
^Sounds great 
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Don Quito
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 20:29 |
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I think Tool is a great band. Adam Jones may not be like any other guitar player, but he is the creative mind behind the guitar riffs and the music videos of the band.
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KEEP THE PROMISE YOU MADE
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kingofbizzare
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 20:39 |
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I heard Lateralus was good, so I put a hold on it at my library. It just came today. I kinda like it, but it's one of those things I can tell is going to grow on me.
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KeleCableII
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 20:40 |
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Tool is definitely one of the most boring things I've ever experienced.
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Rising Force
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 20:48 |
KeleCableII wrote:
Tool is definitely one of the most boring things I've ever experienced. |
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transend
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 20:48 |
I am still confused and astonished they are even here..........
I (fortunatley) borrowed 'Lateralus', the cover is amazing, the music totally did not live up to it. I don't think it is remotely prog and any shape or form. The guys can play, I did hear that. However, I don't know why they are included here, but I feel that about many bands on this site; like Radiohead, Muse etc..
Should be a warning on reviews saying: IF YOU LIKE TRADITIONAL PROGRESSIVE ROCK, AVOID THIS WITH A VERY LARGE OAR
But, hey, we are entitled to our opinion. Maybe we should tell those muslims burning Danish flags that eh?
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Toob-Wurm
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 20:58 |
sularetal wrote:
Tool to me was never about trying to be progressive.... Never liked them cause of their melodies or time signatures, never considered maynard to be a god, I just love them cause they are doing something completely different from anything I've listened so far. I think that they sound quite original... |
I tend to stay away from the term "Prog" altogether. It just puts peoples' minds in a box.
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Tholomyes
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 21:00 |
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Lateralus: Incomparable piece of art metal.
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 21:04 |
I told you Tool was crap lol. The drummer should leave and play in a better band 
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 21:28 |
hmmm... nothing to add here that I haven't said at least 7 or 9 other times in ALL the other Tool hate threads. The only thing I can tell you is never judge an album by a first listen. and shame on you for saying bad things about Danny Carey.  You may not like the music, but making that judgement about his technical ability is just wrong. have a nice day. 
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 21:31 |
sleeper wrote:
Majestic_Mayhem wrote:
I think Jody The Progtologist should post his comments here
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I agree, he'll give you the reasons as to why Tool are good/prog (take your pick)
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I have given up trying to explain Tool to people that obviously can't stand them.
Either people like them or they don't.As you all know I happen to like them.ALOT.
If you don't like them,fine with me.
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