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The narrow scope of one's inspiration is simply due to the constraining walls one has built for him or herself. Music is like a fractal and infinitely expanding into ever shape shifting expressions.

Sounds like you are simply stuck in a solitary place where you can never move on.

Take the advice of the musical genre at hand here and simply progress!

There is music from the 70s that is only now becoming recognized but if you only like the most popular sounds and have an emotional affinity for them, perhaps you need to ask yourself why your emotional inspiration is limited to a single era only.

Are emotional connections to a time and place enough to enjoy music?

Music is like mathematics and can be appreciated by repeated exposure.

Personally i find the most innovative prog to have morphed into the realms of metal and punk. Unfortunately  many find it too abrasive to enjoy but believe me, i've adapted to musical styles i never thought i'd embrace in a million years only to become consumed by them :)



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Originally posted by michaeldupont michaeldupont wrote:

Firstly, sorry for the general negative tone of this post, but feeling uninspired by music is a feeling that I suspect many of us have related to at some point.
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I guess I can only chime in on similar things that others have said already. I'm not a die hard fan of anything the way you are, and I've never ever experienced being uninspired by music. I listen to music I've never heard before every day. So when I get back to revisit King Crimson, Miles Davis, (some) Tangerine Dream, Brian Eno and Aphex Twin (all of which I love) - it's always fresh and exciting. Seriously, you should consider youself lucky. Because this is a chance to snap out of it and forget about KC for a while. Great music new an old is there waiting for you to be discovered. I have a deep connection with King Crimson's music too, discovering them was once life-changing to me. It opened up a new sonical world. But it's fully possible to develop equally meaningful connections with all kinds of music and artists.

Originally posted by michaeldupont michaeldupont wrote:

I ask myself, where does music go from here
What else can I say than to your yet to be discovered favorite band and artists. A little random but: Herbie's Mwandishi-sextet (and all Mwandishi related), early Terje Rypdal, The Necks, Art Zoyd/Univers Zero's dark avant-chamber"rock", McCoy Tyner in the 1970's, Can, Magma, Igor Wakhevitch, Schostacovich' string quartets... my list is endless in regards to "challenging music" that floors me in similar ways to my favorite King Crimson albums. I never collect discographies. Only what I genuinely like. We're all differnt, but I'm glad I'm not as obsessive over one spesific artist.
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Grumpy took some of my suggestions, so I'll take a different approach. Try Snarky Puppy, and check out the artists on their GroundUP label. You won't be disappointed.

Also, there's microtonal music. Screw 12-tone supremacy.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

And there are many more musical scales that the western culture ignores all over the world. And some/many have more than 12 notes.

99% of all the music out there* uses only 12 notes. Microtonal music is really interesting, but it's not very harmonic and thus doesn't appeal to many people. A few bands, for example King Gizzard, have managed to use it in a way that's not too abrasive. Smile


*I was thinking within the scope of Prog. Of course there are microtonal scales in a lot of traditional music from Africa and Asia.


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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Don't stop believing. Never stop searching. Your next favorite band is out there. It's up to you to find them.


look how Winwood did it (ok, that was in 72, so over 50 years ago)
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

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*I was thinking within the scope of Prog. Of course there are microtonal scales in a lot of traditional music from Africa and Asia.

Hi,

And that was what I meant. There is a lot of music that we do not listen to in this Western World, and the possibility might be that said person is actually attuned to something else that is not exactly western minded. I have to make a point of stopping to listen to "rock music" almost strictly to prevent my becoming a zombie and think that western music is what the world is made of. 

It isn't, but the commerciality of the western music is really tiring, and way too repetitive for me in style, format and of course, notes and chords ... with people thinking that those chords and notes mean this and that and all else in music that is not linear (so to speak) ... is not music or accepted as "music".
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Hi there. I can definatley relate to this, and like one or tow others I do apologize for the lengthy reply!

My musical beginnings were rooted in the Brit Pop of the 90s and also a fond love of the Beatles (being from Liverpool) and also Neil Young. So I got into Prog (although didn't know this) via Pink Floyd when I was 16. I quickly racked up all their albums, live stuff and the odd bootleg. It was pretty much all I listened to until I was about 21 when I started getting bored and I stumbled across this site. I soon realised that there was a wealth of stuff just waiting to be discovered. So over the next 10 years I became a crazy KC fan, a Rush fan, a PT / Steven Wilson fan, also getting into the likes of Hawkwind, Yes, Genesis, Caravan. I own at least x1 album of every band in the top 25 all time Prog Archives list I think. I also got into Metal via PT so I like Black Sabbath, Opeth and also really like Aggaloch amongst others.

I have to emphasize that in terms of Prog; Crimson, Rush and all things Porcupine Tree do things to my ears like no other. However, I must confess that over the course of the years my attention has wavered. It's been some time since I last listened to Floyd and Crimson. I listen to Rush a bit now - But only because I've realised I like some of the early 80s albums that are less familiar to me. Pretty much all the prog albums I have haven't spun for quite some time (I have a library of CD's). I can't point as to why this is, and I'm sure that some day I'll have the urge to delve back in.

So these days I've found myself immersing in Neil Young, a singer songwriter from America called Amos Lee (folk, rock, soul), Jason Isbell (Southern Rock, folk, Americana) and Drive-By Truckers (see Isbell). My listening habits are deeply set in the songwriting formula at the moment rather than complex time signatures of Prog. But don't get me wrong - There's still plenty of guitar soloing across the stuff I listen to now that comes off fresh compared to most of the dull efforts from elsewhere - I think southern rock is flying the flag higher than anywhere else to be honest.

 So that's where music is remaining fresh for me currently - Neil Young I have realised is my out and out favorite artist / band. I own just over 50 physical releases of his. From studio albums, archive releases and live albums. There's so much variety from gentle acoustic stuff to heavy garage rock with lengthy guitar jams. Plus he's a fantastic lyricist.

I made a decision recently to go through my entire CD collection beginning with A and play x1 album per band / artist until I've gone through it all. So who knows, the Prog flame may yet re-light this year for me.

I hope this can be of some help to you. If you can't stick singer/songwriter stuff then based on your love of Crimson, Metal might be a good genre for you to delve into. I never thought I could stand death growls, but there's something about the way Opeth do it that rings right with me.

As someone said earlier - Just listen to music. it keeps the soul warm! 
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Originally posted by Palliams Palliams wrote:

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So these days I've found myself immersing in Neil Young ...
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Hi,

Nice ... in one of the films about him there is a bit that he sings out of tune ... and it still sounds fine and right for the moment ... only AD2 and XTC have I ever heard doing something like that ... and you get the handle really fast ... it's about how it feels at that moment, and sometimes, us being stuckup on the notes, just are not listening and appreciating the expression itself, probably because we're somewhat remembering the original and it is different.

I have had a lot of respect for him, since "Ohio" ... and his honesty ... he's one of the few that has never really been stuck on that star thing ... he just wants to play and sing. I was "there" (Madison WI) and the National Guard had encircled the Rathskeller and were frisking everyone coming in to be sure there were no this and that ... but the fun for the NG was them frisking all the women that came to work at the Rathskeller and all the students! All of a sudden, a song had a lot more meaning for me.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Grumpy took some of my suggestions,
Sorry Reno, couldn't help it.

To the OP, has any of this feedback or suggestions been helpful?
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I started listening to King Crimson in 1972. By 2001 I had grown tired of the band . Bored with box sets of unreleased concerts. It was a redundancy. By the early 2000s I could no longer listen to a King Crimson album but once or twice a year.

I bought the discography of many a band that were influenced by King Crimson. I became familiar with the music of Ange and how periodically they reminded me of King Crimson.

Far Corner, Univers Zero , Birdsongs Of The Mesozoic, Miriodor, Happy Family seemed to be reminiscent of King Crimson in some ways.

Those bands did inspire me though...and I still listen to them occasionally. I find the realization of "jaded" motive to pursue other kinds of music. I might listen to Wendy Carlos Sonic Seasonings or Delia Derbyshire & Barry Bermange Invention For Radio The Dreams...

Or I might play the music of George Crumb or Edgar Varese. Or perhaps Modern Chamber Music can be an escapism for me. Julverne, Kronos Quartet , John Adams, Ingram Marshall...Stomu Yamashta

I find it a beautiful escapism and not a redundancy...or a repeat insistently based on the knowledge that I like it and it goes nowhere.
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If you are finding yourself being uninspired by music, stop listening to it. In time, you may desire listening to music again. But if not, so what?
 
In the above posts, there seems to be a lot of advice about expanding one's musical tastes, but is there any point in trying to enjoy something that one really doesn't enjoy? Sure, there is a lot of music out there that one has never heard before, and searching for music that one might find inspiring may itself be a source of enjoyment, but there is no imperative to have music in one's life if one is no longer enjoying it. Perhaps boredom is a problem to be overcome, but I'm not sure anyone else can help you with that.
 



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I suppose it's becoming another version of 'music ain't what it used to be'. There may well be a slow death going on as AI and self correcting music software becomes more and more prevalant. I've tried not to get drawn into that discussion but it could be an issue. However getting bored with classic prog is whole different thing. That does not compute! As much as I like Neil Young and other classic songwriting dudes, there will always be a prog itch that will need scratching.
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

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In the above posts, there seems to be a lot of advice about expanding one's musical tastes, but is there any point in trying to enjoy something that one really doesn't enjoy?
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Hi,

Thought about this all night ... and I think that this signals a very limited listener, that is NOT spending his/her time listening to music.

To not realize, and open up, to what is likely the prettiest of all expressions that humans have ever created, it is sad to me, that folks limit it, and see it here A LOT ... because of their inability to hear anything else in music ... and the only truth about music I have ever found, and understood is that the more different things you listen to, the less problems you have with the odd/different things that you come across, and you also STOP thinking in terms of "preference" and learn to start appreciating many things ... 

Ex: I do not love/enjoy baroque music anymore than the Romantic Era folks, any more than the Jazz folks in America, or any more than the progressive folks mentioned on PA ... and the sooner we help any listener to understand that, the easier it will be for that person to appreciate music ... assuming that person has the willingness to open up his noodles to some more scrambling!

Uninspired by music is a scary thought ... so the guy is bored with his wife/girlfriend, or worse, his/her children? TIME OUT ... we know where the problem is!!!! And where the appreciation is NOT.
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The same piece of art can act differently to the same person depending on the situation, the state of mind and sometimes also the weather. What doesn't work today may work tomorrow. 
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^ Indeed.

I don't try to enjoy something I don't enjoy, but I have enjoyed things that I did not enjoy before, and not enjoyed things that I once enjoyed. I recognise that what I don't enjoy at one time I may enjoy at another time. It does depend on my mood, current interests, what music I have been exposed to as sometimes there are stepping stones that lead to musical avenues opening up for one....
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