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Van der Graaf Generator - "Pioneers Over C", H to He.... (1970)

The space technology, as depicted in this song, seems definitely not to be a good one, either, as an astronaut feels rather bad about being lost in the outer space.





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Did anyone mention "Get 'em out by Friday?" 
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Did anyone mention "Get 'em out by Friday?" 

Yes, in the political thread. Big smile
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Did anyone mention "Get 'em out by Friday?" 

Yes, in the political thread. Big smile


I'd posit that it is more of a nightmarish technocracy song.....
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Yeah but how about something more current? Genesis has been done to death.

I would say Surface Tension by Bubblemath sort of fits the bill. Though the lyrics are admittedly a little oblique. Not in a Jon Anderson way, but the true meaning isn't readily apparent and requires further interpretation.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Did anyone mention "Get 'em out by Friday?" 
Yes, in the political thread. Big smile
I'd posit that it is more of a nightmarish technocracy song.....

I think, I can see what you mean if "technocracy" includes experts in social and biological matters, and with the Genetic Control agenda.
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Sean, Can you maybe tell what Atoll's L'Araignée-Mal suite is about? Can it be something of what we're looking for?
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

^That song "Epitaph" literally helped me to direct my angst about the American environmental disaster of the late 1960s (rivers catching on fire etc.) and inspired me to pursue work in the environmental field.  Music by Yes ("Let them rape the forests" - uh, no way!) helped as well!!  

This is the result (I am co-founder):  http://www.neochloris.com

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I'm not familiar with the lyrics/music of this King Crimson release, but the cover art sure fits the bill for this thread! 






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^You should listen to it. It's as good as their other material. Though it does not have anything to do witha nightmarish technocracy.

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Voivod - Nothingface (1989)

This Prog Metal album may not be that much about technocracy, but I think it can at least be said to be quite a lot about nightmarish industrialism. The Canadian Voivod was born in Jonquiére, a town with pulp, paper and aluminium factories churned unceasingly, spewing smoke and generating a perpetual mechanical din. The drummer, Michel Langevin, could have nightmares because of the sounds from these factories, and all that can be heard in the album's sound and seen in the coverart and lyrics.

                           

Exceptional choice for sure.

Also, if you want to consider Nevermore a prog metal band, they have a lot of those lyrical themes as well 
Take me down, to the underground
Won't you take me down, to the underground
Why oh why, there is no light
And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life

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Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Exceptional choice for sure.

Yes, I think you're right, as all the songs/albums, which point at industrialism as a dominant part of the organization and function 
of societies and of people's life, have to be about technocracy.


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This thread has been quite busy but at this point of time, it may look to me that Macan kind of exaggurated the amount of Prog about nightmarish technocracy, as he was quite surely talking about the stricktly defined, English Progressive Rock from the '70s, and we haven't find particularly much of that kind. Maybe it was mostly ELP specialty.






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Iconoclasta (Mexico) - Reminiscencias (1985), apocalyptical concept album concerning the danger of nuclear technology and arms race
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Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon (1973)

According to Edward Macan's Rocking the Classics (1997, p. 78), the lyrics of this album explores those sides of modern industrial society that depersonalize, dehumanize, and ultimately drive people to madness.
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I do love the US band called Built For The Future. Their third album from last year 2084: Heretic may qualify although they are delving into Orwellian themes that are more about control and authority rather than technology being out of control. I still want to mention it though as the 'feel' they successfully create is very claustrophobic where the world closing in on you. Terry Gilliam also did this brilliantly in the film Brazil where among many other things technology literally makes an office smaller, not even metophorically! A character played by De Niro also drops in to an apartment and pulls out so much wiring and pipework (in trying to fix it) that the dwelling is virtually rendered uninhabitable. 
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Everything by Magma (except for Merci)

Is this opinion of yours as Magma being about nightmarish technocracy well in line with this I wrote in another thread about Magma in the '70s?:

"Magma had definitely certain thematic preferences and consistency, as well as they seem to be rather socially concerned. Or at least Christian Vander who according to Wikipedia claimed as his inspiration a "vision of humanity's spiritual and ecological future" that profoundly disturbed him.

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_(band) )"
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