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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2024 at 16:57
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Yet the very distinction between music & noise indicates the difference between the two.   The inclusion of noise into music does not negate the nature of noise, and that breach must exist in order to realize music itself as a singular construct.
This is so if you construct music and noise as opposites (as the opening sentence of the book description does). But you could also construct concepts in such a way that the opposite of music is non-music (not identical to noise), and that noise can occur on both the music and non-music side. In that way distinction from noise is not essential for constructing music as a concept. 
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^ But they must be distinct concepts from each other, otherwise music would not be a thing and this discussion would be irrelevant.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2024 at 17:21
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ But they must be distinct concepts from each other, otherwise music would not be a thing and this discussion would be irrelevant.
That's fair enough, but not asking for much I think.
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I too find the introduction strange, and I'm not really understanding this discussion. Silence is a distinctly different concept to music as well, yet a natural part of (all) music.
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