What have you discovered through your love of prog |
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ExittheLemming
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To the OP, I think you disingenuous but heartfelt. I don't really give a f*ck who you f*ck or want to f*ck but kudos to you that you're comfortable with disclosing your sexual orientation to complete strangers on a musical appreciation forum. It stands to reason that there are attractive males in Rock, Reggae, Jazz , Flamenco, Blues, Metal, Pop, Klezmer et al and you state your physical attraction to Peter Gabriel was not countenanced by the music so why do you feel compelled to conflate your avowed bisexuality with a love of Prog? Word to the wise. The prevalent orthodoxy that Prog = intelligent listener can be debunked by a random glance at the reviews and posts on PA. Just for the record, I'm openly straight, physically wretched and older than most trees.
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moshkito
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Hi,
Without trying to be a terrible turnip ... that there is nothing in it that was not there before, except loudness. The talent and ability for a lot of music has been around for thousands of years, and us thinking that one particular snot is different than all the rest ... is just tea time talk about the pink flamingos!
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Psychedelic Paul
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Actually, I think I'd rather listen to mindless pap than Gentle Giant and 80's era King Crimson, but each to their own.
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presdoug
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That music appreciation is essential to my health and well being; without it, I would be not well.
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The Dark Elf
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I can hear Judy Collins singing "Send in the Clowns" as the soundtrack to your post. Except with Marshall amps and Strats. Yes, music has existed for as long as mankind has been around. However, in context (and I realize you are incapable of maintaining contextuality), before prog there was simply 3-4 chord rock (or rock and roll, rockabilly or whatever) based on blues scales and R & B melodies. To say that progressive rock was simply a matter of loudness is a silly take -- sillier than your usual tripe. Synthesizing classical and jazz forms transcended that simplistic rock mode and allowed for more complex compositions within the rock genre. It expanded the palette, and for at least a little while also expanded popular music beyond the banal crap that still floods the airwaves. Edited by The Dark Elf - August 29 2021 at 11:29 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I wonder if prog actually happened because of psych or if they both happened concurrently. I tend to think that art rock at least happened around the same time psych started. You might even say psych was a kind of art rock. Also, I think PF and Zappa/MOI were blurring the lines as early as 66/67.
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Progishness
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I've never been able to get into Gentle Giant either, nor Gong, or Van Der Graaf Generator, or Magma for that matter, which probably means I'm not a 'proper prog fan'.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I once knew a guy who seemed to like every seventies prog band except Yes. I was going through his record collection and saw Pink Floyd(I think), Gentle Giant, ELP, Genesis, King Crimson, Caravan, Hatfield and the North, National Health, Soft Machine, etc etc. but no Yes. I asked him why and he said he didn't like Yes. At the time I was thinking to myself "how can you be a prog fan if you don't like Yes?" This was in the 90's and at the time I doubt he had any idea about the current prog scene either(although I didn't ask him). He also didn't seem to know about Italian prog. So there you have it. People can like what they want and we don't have to agree with it as long as we know what we like (to paraphrase a certain prog song).
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Psychedelic Paul
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^ I know what I like in my wardrobe (a white suit!) and I know what I like in a prog song, although it's hard to strictly define in words, but it always helps if the song includes a Mellotron.
In reply to Progishness, try the "Downwind album by Pierre Moerlen's Gong if you've never been able to get into Gong. The album sounds remarkably like a classic album by Mike Oldfield.
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cstack3
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Thanks, great link!! This reminds me of an admonition from a bandmate many years ago = "Never wear underwear onstage!" Glad you are finding out who you are, life is full of surprises. My wife, an experienced psychologist, taught me "Love is never wrong!" What have I discovered? Mostly how powerful the camaraderie is of fans of this music. Presdoug and I are close friends, although we have not met - we have sent one another CDs and vinyl, and we share a deep and abiding love for many things prog. I still chat on a daily basis with friends I've known for 50 years or more, and we often discuss our live music exploits of the 1970s including Yes, Deep Purple, ELP etc. The wonder never seems to fade.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I actually have downwind on cd somewhere. Right now Time is the key is on the shelf and I played it once(good one). I have to revisit the early Gong albums at some point too. Speaking of Mike Oldfield I am severely lacking as far as he goes. I like what I've heard though. I think he sounds like the PM Gong because they played on eachother's albums.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Prog has shown me that what I personally value, enjoy, and appreciate about the construction of music = most people literally couldn't care less about if they tried, lol.
The more I delve into what I truly enjoy with no apology, the more I realize how little I have in common with other people!
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rogerthat
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To give a disappointingly banal answer, I have discovered amazing singers and musicians through my love of prog (because these musicians happened to be part of the bands I discovered). I don't know what else I was supposed to discover.
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miamiscot
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I discovered that I was a fraud and had very little in terms of real musical talent. Thanks, Prog.
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^ You're not alone...
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tszirmay
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Endless discovery...
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Rottenprogger
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I laughed and nodded my head most vigorously at this because it's undeniably true. Even before I properly got into prog I was into classic rock and I was noticing this in the late 1990s and it hasn't changed since! As for what I've discovered through my love of prog is the diverse subgenres and influences that it has and discovering even more excellent music in the process. It's a neverending musical journey! |
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cstack3
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Oh damn, I thought you said "porg!"
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Rottenprogger
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Sorry, we're all out of porg!
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