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Your "Big Six" that aren't in the "Big Six" |
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Psychedelic Paul 
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07. Renaissance
08. Camel 09. Barclay James Harvest 10. Moody Blues 11. Procol Harum 12. Caravan (trailing behind again)
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Progishness
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Posted: April 21 2021 at 08:55 |
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I never quite got into BJH, all their stuff sounds like what the Moody Blues had already done (and done much better IMO). Sorry.
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Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: April 21 2021 at 09:31 |
Barclay James Harvest were part of my introduction to prog in the early 1970's, alongside Renaissance, Camel, Mike Oldfield, Procol Harum and the Moody Blues. The only exception in my "Big Six" list is Caravan, having not heard any of their albums or any other Canterbury Scene music before going online in 2010.
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Posted: April 21 2021 at 09:38 |
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Amon Duul 2 Banco del Mutuo Soccorso Ange Just for starters ... since these were ORIGINALS instead of copies, as so many were. If anything, these folks did not have to show off their ability to create something special and totally out of tune with that "top six", who, in my estimation continue to be over rated when compared to a much larger set of musicians and players from around the world. For that matter, though a bit later, someone like Ryuichi Sakamoto deserves to be mentioned ... from electronica, to soundtracks to experimental fun (Neo Geo/Heartbeat and Beauty ... 3 MUST HAVE ALBUMS FOR PROGRESSIVE FOLKS!!!) ... few people have that kind of talent that even got him an OSCAR ... and will make him be remembered long after all of us are gone ... nowadays he seems to be very classical and piano oriented but his work in the past is insane, and above all ... totally beautiful!
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 01:52 |
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Moody Blues
Rush VDGG Renaissance Porcupine Tree Frank Zappa |
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 02:10 |
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Big 7
 Can Amon Düül ll Magma Faust Area Soft Machine Franco Battiato Edited by Guldbamsen - April 22 2021 at 02:11 |
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 04:58 |
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King Crimson Pink Floyd VDGG Genesis Gentle Giant Yes
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suitkees
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 04:59 |
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The Big Six in my record collection, outside of the Big Six: Ange Banco del mutuo soccorso Eloy Focus MarillionFrank Zappa Followed by the Little Six: Grobschnitt IQ Pallas Rush Saga Twelfth Night |
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 09:49 |
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I have no problem with the original big 6 list... a second one for me 'might' be this...staying with 'classic prog rock'. Moody Blues Traffic Strawbs Gentle Giant Camel Caravan |
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 10:11 |
That could almost be my list apart from Gentle Giant. They're the only band in your Big 6 that aren't on any of my A-Z prog playlists.
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 12:03 |
I think you missed the point of the post. Four of your big six are in the " established big six" We're looking for alternatives to those bands here. Edited by Argo2112 - April 22 2021 at 12:59 |
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 12:58 |
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I'm listing more than 6 so I don't have to fret about picking just six. I also am generally considering groups that produced at least 4 great albums, with an exception or two like Midlake that have produced 3 and might yet produce a 4th. I'm also not including prog related groups
classic prog: Barclay James Harvest Camel Clannad Eloy Jade Warrior Moody Blues Mike Oldfield Le Orme Renaissance Alan Stivell Strawbs prog after classic period Albion Anyone's Daughter Il Castello di Atlante Collage/Satellite/Believe/Mr Gil Clepsydra Corde Oblique Midlake Poor Genetic Material Sagrado Sangre de Muerdago
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 15:43 |
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Gentle Giant
Van der Graaf Generator Alquin Rush Camel Traffic |
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^ Nice to see Alquin mentioned. I wouldn't put them in my personal "Big" ones, but a couple of their early albums remain a great listen and I spin them rather regularly.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 16:10 |
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^ If I was a Dutchman, I'd definitely include Alquin in my Big Six, alongside Earth & Fire, Ekseption, Focus, Group 1850 & Solution.
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 16:15 |
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Big 5:
VDGG Magma Can Amon Düül II Gong |
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 19:09 |
In my opinion, the BIG SIX are: 1) King Crimson (they have founded prog in 1969) 2) Pink Floyd (they converted to prog after coming from psychedelia) 3) Soft Machine (they mixed jazz rock with prog and avantguarde) 4) Van Der Graaf (after a post-psychedelic album, between 1970 and 1971 they published the best prog albums, that are becoming older better, for the existential music and lyrics) 5) Genesis (with Trespass they created the standard of the classical sound of prog) 6) Yes (from The Yes Album they created the most majestic prog sound). (Pay attention: these are not my fave six prog band but those I consider the most important in the history of of prog) Edited by jamesbaldwin - April 22 2021 at 19:13 |
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Posted: April 22 2021 at 20:25 |
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I totally agree with the classic definition of the Big 6, but Rush and Marillion are absolutely 'Big' to me too by all accounts.
Beyond that, it would be: Gong, PFM, Maxophone (though only one LP), IQ's first two albums. Gentle Giant. Beyond that: Camel, Caravan, Soft Machine. |
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Posted: April 23 2021 at 01:40 |
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objectively after the big six (correct as per the OP) PFM (mainly for the first 3 albums but they are special) Gentle Giant (innovation) Van Der Graaf Generator (punk like emotion and for making the sax a 'real' instrument!) Porcupine Tree (duh!) Marillion (double duh!) btw in terms of the original 'big six' , anyone not thinking that a band with Keith Emerson in is not in there is getting it totally wrong , opinion or no opinion. Include The Nice if you have to though!
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Posted: April 23 2021 at 04:22 |
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I have a personal big 5, one of which (King Crimson) is in the "big 6". The others are: Can - Art Zoyd - Talk Talk - Cardiacs. To nominate a non-big-6-big-6 I've got to add two, and today that's Amon Düül II, Porcupine Tree. Can be different on another day (PT are really outsiders and are not normally that high up, but I listen to them a lot these days). Instead could have nominated Tangerine Dream, Swans, VDGG, Camel, Kate Bush, David Sylvian, Mike Oldfield,...
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