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At that point, probably Sabbath. They had released their best stuff already, while Zeppelin had not yet released two of their best albums: PG and Presence. 


Ozric - those are the exact two titles I kept for years also! LOL
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I like a bit of Sabbath but imo Led Zep are streets ahead of them.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

At that point, probably Sabbath. They had released their best stuff already, while Zeppelin had not yet released two of their best albums: PG and Presence. 


Ozric - those are the exact two titles I kept for years also! LOL
.....mainly for their slow blues - Since I’ve Been Loving You (stolen from Moby Grape) and Tea For One. I’ve never heard such masterful, soulful blues done this well (I’ve obviously not heard much then.....) but that’s the Zepp I love.
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Zep....by a healthy margin...never thought much of Sabbath musically.....they seemed like a one trick pony to me.
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

At that point, probably Sabbath. They had released their best stuff already, while Zeppelin had not yet released two of their best albums: PG and Presence.  

I agree on PG but as much as I enjoy Presence, one of Zeppelin's best it is not. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

At that point, probably Sabbath. They had released their best stuff already, while Zeppelin had not yet released two of their best albums: PG and Presence.  


I agree on PG but as much as I enjoy Presence, one of Zeppelin's best it is not. 



To each his or her own tastes, but per my tastes, I'm with you on that,Cristi. I love Physical Graffiti and Presence is my least liked Led Zeppelin studio album. Post 1973, I happen to enjoy In Through the Out Door very much, especially for "Carouselambra". For me Presence does not rank amongst Zep's best, and while ITtOD is one of my favourites, I wouldn't rank it amongst the best, or greatest, either.

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^ ITtOD is what I think of a 'secret favorite' among fans, I love it.   I also adore Presence but it has some stinkers and is not as consistent.   Oddly enough, as a lifelong Zephead, my least favorites are ZoSo and Houses.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

At that point, probably Sabbath. They had released their best stuff already, while Zeppelin had not yet released two of their best albums: PG and Presence.  


I agree on PG but as much as I enjoy Presence, one of Zeppelin's best it is not. 



To each his or her own tastes, but per my tastes, I'm with you on that,Cristi. I love Physical Graffiti and Presence is my least liked Led Zeppelin studio album. Post 1973, I happen to enjoy In Through the Out Door very much, especially for "Carouselambra". For me Presence does not rank amongst Zep's best, and while ITtOD is one of my favourites, I wouldn't rank it amongst the best, or greatest, either.

I love Carouselambra, Jones saved that album. I also love the opening song In the Evening and I'm gonna Crawl. 

Post 73 Sabbath had some albums I really enjoy, I find Never Say Die to be rather underrated, undeservingly hated I dare say. Technical Ecstasy is also a good effort, the only song I eventually got bored with is the tearjerker She's Gone, a failed attempt to create something like Changes from Vol. 4. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Post 73 Sabbath had some albums I really enjoy, I find Never Say Die to be rather underrated, undeservingly hated I dare say. Technical Ecstasy is also a good effort, the only song I eventually got bored with is the tearjerker She's Gone, a failed attempt to create something like Changes from Vol. 4. 
I think Technical Ecstasy is more underrated than Never Say Die, and was quite surprised to find it rated lower on this site. I do prefer Technical Ecstasy over Never Say Die, although I do quite like Never Say Die. I suppose that these two albums compare poorly to the previous six albums mainly because the previous six albums were such great albums.
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

At that point, probably Sabbath. They had released their best stuff already, while Zeppelin had not yet released two of their best albums: PG and Presence.  


I agree on PG but as much as I enjoy Presence, one of Zeppelin's best it is not. 



To each his or her own tastes, but per my tastes, I'm with you on that,Cristi. I love Physical Graffiti and Presence is my least liked Led Zeppelin studio album. Post 1973, I happen to enjoy In Through the Out Door very much, especially for "Carouselambra". For me Presence does not rank amongst Zep's best, and while ITtOD is one of my favourites, I wouldn't rank it amongst the best, or greatest, either.


I love Carouselambra, Jones saved that album. I also love the opening song In the Evening and I'm gonna Crawl. 

Post 73 Sabbath had some albums I really enjoy, I find Never Say Die to be rather underrated, undeservingly hated I dare say. Technical Ecstasy is also a good effort, the only song I eventually got bored with is the tearjerker She's Gone, a failed attempt to create something like Changes from Vol. 4. 


Those are great songs too, and yes, Jones is the man on it. It's because of his work that I do love the album. I know the term underrated can be problematic, but I genuinely believe that that album is very underrated by many. I've seen so much derision for it with little justification.

With post '73 Sabbath, I only have had two albums in my collection: Sabotage and Born Again. Born Again is an album that I find better than the consensus, and not just when it comes to the album art.;)
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Black Sabbath were my favourite group during my youth before falling in love with prog, so naturally they get my vote. Although there are many Led Zeppelin tracks that I love, I've never really been a fan of their music as a whole.
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



Those are great songs too, and yes, Jones is the man on it. It's because of his work that I do love the album. I know the term underrated can be problematic, but I genuinely believe that that album is very underrated by many. I've seen so much derision for it with little justification.

With post '73 Sabbath, I only have had two albums in my collection: Sabotage and Born Again. Born Again is an album that I find better than the consensus, and not just when it comes to the album art.;)

Sabotage is a great album if you ask me. 
As for Born Again, it's an uneven mess, strange production, it broke the band apart for a while in its aftermath. 


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Now here's two bands I love but mainly feel like listening to while consuming alcohol. Most awesome beer&cuesports combo-quartet: Children of the Grave, Electric Funeral, Immigrant Song and No Quarter - hell yeah!

They're about equally great... perhaps Sabbath makes me feel the most alive which is a great quality. But Zeppelin has a knack for writing ballad-like beautiful tunes too like Going to California, The Rain Song that the former band can't match.
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^ And the beautiful ballad "Thank You", and music like "Ten Years Gone" which has this combination of rockin' and real beauty.

^^ Sabotage is a classic. I kind of like Born Again for the uneven mess and strange production, but not because it broke the band apart.

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I'm thinking to make a poll for 1975-1982 Zep vs Sabbath. Tell me if you think it's a good idea and I'll do it. Tongue
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I'm thinking to make a poll for 1975-1982 Zep vs Sabbath. Tell me if you think it's a good idea and I'll do it. Tongue


I think that's a good idea. the combo of Physical Graffiti, In Through the Out Door and The Song Remains the Same soundtrack would almost certainly get my vote (and I still like Presence). I'd want to listen to more BS from the time before participating.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I'm thinking to make a poll for 1975-1982 Zep vs Sabbath. Tell me if you think it's a good idea and I'll do it. Tongue


I think that's a good idea. the combo of Physical Graffiti, In Through the Out Door and The Song Remains the Same soundtrack would almost certainly get my vote (and I still like Presence). I'd want to listen to more BS from the time before participating.

So it would mean the LZ album from the second half of the 70s plus Coda, versus same from Sabbath plus the two albums with Ronnie James Dio (1980-81) 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I'm thinking to make a poll for 1975-1982 Zep vs Sabbath. Tell me if you think it's a good idea and I'll do it. Tongue


I think that's a good idea. the combo of Physical Graffiti, In Through the Out Door and The Song Remains the Same soundtrack would almost certainly get my vote (and I still like Presence). I'd want to listen to more BS from the time before participating.

So it would mean the LZ album from the second half of the 70s plus Coda, versus same from Sabbath plus the two albums with Ronnie James Dio (1980-81) 

Would be a Led Zep no-brainer vote from me. I know many loves those Ronnie James Dio-albums but to me they just sound dumb with weak song material. Plus the riffs aren't as memorable anymore. The classic six first BS-albums have an attractiver kind of diabolical eerie doom and gloom atmosphere but also desperation and paranoia which is all quite intriguing. Along comes the Rainbow guy and suddenly its all meaningless D&D nonsense (which works perfectly fine in Stargazer)

We made the mountains shake with laughter as we played
Hiding in our corner of the world
Then we did the demon dance and rushed to nevermore
Threw away the key and locked the door
WTF?

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ And the beautiful ballad "Thank You", and music like "Ten Years Gone" which has this combination of rockin' and real beauty.

^^ Sabotage is a classic. I kind of like Born Again for the uneven mess and strange production, but not because it broke the band apart.
Yes both those and Sabotage is fantastic - but I've never heard Born Again
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I'm thinking to make a poll for 1975-1982 Zep vs Sabbath. Tell me if you think it's a good idea and I'll do it. Tongue


I think that's a good idea. the combo of Physical Graffiti, In Through the Out Door and The Song Remains the Same soundtrack would almost certainly get my vote (and I still like Presence). I'd want to listen to more BS from the time before participating.

So it would mean the LZ album from the second half of the 70s plus Coda, versus same from Sabbath plus the two albums with Ronnie James Dio (1980-81) 

Would be a Led Zep no-brainer vote from me. I know many loves those Ronnie James Dio-albums but to me they just sound dumb with weak song material. Plus the riffs aren't as memorable anymore. The classic six first BS-albums have an attractiver kind of diabolical eerie doom and gloom atmosphere but also desperation and paranoia which is all quite intriguing. Along comes the Rainbow guy and suddenly its all meaningless D&D nonsense (which works perfectly fine in Stargazer)

We made the mountains shake with laughter as we played
Hiding in our corner of the world
Then we did the demon dance and rushed to nevermore
Threw away the key and locked the door
WTF?


I've heard bad lyrical content in prog as well, so...

Dio albums are dumb?! That's new. I think they reinvented themselves with Ronnie and those two albums are essential Sabbath as well. 

if it's a no brainer, I won't bother anyone with a new poll. 
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