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Queen/Deep Purple ----I say they are here...so wake up and move on.....enjoy the site. BTW, do you guys own it??? If it pisses you off move on...or shrug it off. Queen on the site....another good move only for their first four albums, can't deny the progressive element. Sorry but it is a damning fact.

peace and love and lennon....

gabbel ratchett wrote: So when do we include Jean Luc Ponty and Jan Hammer, Miles Davis and Dave Brubeck? Their prog elements are just as strong as Black Sabbath or some other rock bands. Doesnt a line need to be drawn somewhere?

I would argue that JLP deserves inclusion and maybe Brubeck but not Miles Davis or Jan Hammer c'mon! JLP contribution is a definite. I would say that Jazz Fusion is more Prog orientated than pure Jazz like Miles Davis...although equally respectable

Peter

Chaps PLEASE don't turn this site into a general rock site.Led Zep and Sabbath are geat bands but there is absolutely no good reason in the world to include them.

JUST SAY NO..YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE

Chris Stacey wrote: Tony Fisher wrote: Hang on, some of us don't even think Rush are prog!! Deep Purple, Radiohead and Queen are definitely not prog IMO, but I suspect they're here to stay. What about: Golden Earring Wishbone Ash Runrig All those are at least as prog as the recent additions but for God's sake don't add them!!!     How can you say ' Ballad of the Beacon' is not prog or anything from the debut to Pilgrimage. ' Front Page News' is commercial but a darn site better than Invisible touch and noone questions Genesis because of their highly important early work. Let's not deny the early 70's created prog in bands that did not perhaps even have a leaning towards prog at the time but still went along for the ride. Therefore excluding them reduces the credibility of this fine site.

I don't agree with the last line at all.Why? I grew up in the seventies (like many here) and Sabbath and Led Zep (not to mention Queen) were never considered prog.It will distort and dilute the importnace of this site to include them.They are great ROCK icons.Leave them be.Deep Purple did produce the concerto for group and orchesta album so they have some reason for being here although I would have kept them out as the lines are now getting too blurry and inevitably we are getting the calls to include Sabbath and Led Zep as well.Slippery slope... 

btw I still think there was a justification for including Radiohead who have produced at least 2 full prog albums.

Chris Stacey wrote: gabbel ratchett wrote: So when do we include Jean Luc Ponty and Jan Hammer, Miles Davis and Dave Brubeck? Their prog elements are just as strong as Black Sabbath or some other rock bands. Doesnt a line need to be drawn somewhere? I would argue that JLP deserves inclusion and maybe Brubeck but not Miles Davis or Jan Hammer c'mon! JLP contribution is a definite. I would say that Jazz Fusion is more Prog orientated than pure Jazz like Miles Davis...although equally respectable

Miles' Bitches Brew IS Fusion. The key members of MO, RTF and WR played on Miles' albums.

dmille wrote: How is it that folks on this site don't understand the difference between heavy metal and progressive-rock?

Many are too young to have lived through the classic prog era -- they see metal bands (with keyboards) here, so they think that classic hard rock bands must now somhow be "prog" by default. (They're trying to get them "in through the out door.")

As so-called "prog" fans, many think that everything they like must somehow now be prog.