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Originally posted by mechanicalflattery mechanicalflattery wrote:

Would there be any discernible difference between prog-punk and post-punk?

Oceansize is post-punk, but falls way under my prog spectrum.
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Nahh I think you've got the stickers mixed up there. Oceansize are as post-punk as Dolly Parton is reggaeWink More like slightly psychedelic post-rock.

I don't consider them progressive either - nowhere near the experimental punch of this outfit:

One is (modern) prawk one is post-punk. Funny thing is it's the latter I'd consider the most progressive of the two.




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If you listen to this full album of Rhythm Pigs you will find lots of progressive influences. This early Iron Maiden type punk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlH8aDCtt4w
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Bill Nelson's Sound On Sound (Red Noise), or am I just fishing?

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My band's 5th album is a prog punk-ish type album. Mellotron, lots of keys, aggressive and raw.


You should really look into John Zorn's Naked City.


If you're willing to dig into modern progressive post-hardcore, there are TONS of bands like this. The Mars Volta's Tremulant EP and Deloused in the Comatorium truly fit this well. I could honestly list a couple dozen bands that touch closer to this realm, especially if you're willing to include prog emo/screamo.


But all this could also depend on how "strict" your definition of punk is.
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somewhere between prog and punk lie post-hardcore (the real one, from the 90s) and mathcore, and you're gonna love 'em:





CRASS were UK's Anarcho-Punks who released this little thingy 34 years ago:



and you might like THIS HEAT then too, etc
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^ Good call on the mathcore, don't know why I didn't think of it --
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Like this one from NoMeansNo very much




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Gospel- the Moon is a Dead World - I definitely second that record.

Also, I have some friends in a band called Abertooth Lincoln that mix hardcore punk with prog and they do it very well.
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In my opinion, 
THIS is the perfect combination of Punk and (classic) Prog 
-- and it's by a renowned Metal (!) band.  So go figure. 




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If one sees a certain complexity as sine qua non for prog and not being stripped down but being angry and aggressive as sine qua non for punk rock, I can't see any reason why they can't be combined.
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And maybe Propaghandi, I didn't heared too much from that band tho.

Also, Prog-Punk is basically a weird genre, since punk is supposed to be a simple genre with generic chord progressions like E5 C5 G5 D5 (I used to play in a punk band and that was one of our chord progressions, 2000 punk bands already used that chord progression...) and little to no variation in the music, just simplistic and kind of raw music. It's kind of confusing.

But some genres born from punk (like Post-Hardcore, Mathcore, Screamo or Metalcore) can be very progressive, with bands like The Fall of Troy, After the Burial or The Dillinger Escape Plan, but those are in the borderline with metal.

Basically you can't make progressive punk, period.
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mr sterile Assembly, quite similar to NoMeansNo:
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