Judas Priest

"We started rehearsing and writing some of our own songs, classing ourselves as a progressive rock band. We also played covers of bands like Spirit and Quick Silver Messenger Service. We advertised for work in a local newspaper, and a guy called Alan Eade from Ace Management came to our rescue. He put some gigs our way and took us into the studios to record some of my songs. We recorded two songs, "Good Time Woman" and "We'll Stay Together" and sent them off to several record companies.
We had interest from Harvest and Immediate Record companies, so we did a live showcase for them at a local venue in Walsall, The George Hotel.
"Among the audience that night was another singer called Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin) who we were introduced to. Immediate Records liked the sound of us and gave us a deal. We signed a three-year contract (our manager gave us a champagne party at his house) and starting putting songs together for the first album.
"Two months later, the bubble burst when our manager Alan gave us the bad news that the record company had folded. This was a bitter blow for us. Back to the drawing board and back on the road touring.... We carried on touring into 1970, but started to drift apart musically, I wanted to explore the rock side and break away from the bluesy feel the band had developed. So, midway through 1970, we decided to split and go our separate ways."
- Al Atkins, VICTIM OF CHANGES liner note, 1997

b_olariu wrote:  no is the answer, they are heavy metal all the way, even first 3 albums toying here in there with some sporadicaly prog leanings Evrywhere JP is stated as heavy metal gods and no trace of prog here Just my opinion

Totally agree Bogdan

I think everybody here are aware that Judas Priest wouldn't be admitted in here even if they released a double album of 20 minute epics with multiple themes, orchestral arrangements and music more complex than Gentle Giant made in their heyday. They have too many straight metal albums in their history to ever be admitted in here, no matter what they may do for the next 10 or even 20 years if they stay alive that long.

That they have some early albums that are prog influenced, arguably even prog depending on point of view, that the band was aware of and familiar of the genre and knowingly incorporated elements of it early on, and admittedly influential to the development of progressive metal won't change that. As long as they have a full dozen albums without any prog merits, they will never be allowed into the database of this website.

Hmmm, well in that case there should be high hopes for the likes of UFO and Scorpions at least, as both of them have undisputed prog albums in their discography.

Finnforest wrote: FWIW the old standby of "one prog album and you're in" was no longer the favored way of approaching legacy artists according to previous (and nameless) Admin I've spoken to about this.  They had become more in favor of considering the "entirity of the body of work" than they were to someone pointing to one or two debatable albums and then approving an artist with a dozen (or two) non prog albums.  they explained that the "one and you're in" rule was born of early days when the site was young, as a strategy to add much content as quickly as possible.  As it grew and because more focused and organized, the thinking was that we should require a legacy artist to meet a higher standard than one or two "proggy" albums since that particular standard could apply to some dubious additions not really suited to the site.

Angelo wrote: Windhawk wrote: I think everybody here are aware that Judas Priest wouldn't be admitted in here even if they released a double album of 20 minute epics with multiple themes, orchestral arrangements and music more complex than Gentle Giant made in their heyday. They have too many straight metal albums in their history to ever be admitted in here, no matter what they may do for the next 10 or even 20 years if they stay alive that long. That they have some early albums that are prog influenced, arguably even prog depending on point of view, that the band was aware of and familiar of the genre and knowingly incorporated elements of it early on, and admittedly influential to the development of progressive metal won't change that. As long as they have a full dozen albums without any prog merits, they will never be allowed into the database of this website. I smell sarcasm...

beats the alternative.. and telling those against this that their objections are based on 'the name' not the music. And continuing to say that that works for the unwashed masses but should not collaborators who should listen without prejudice.. if they can't do that.. they shouldn't be tasked with additions here.


You would rather have his irony that saying something like that wouldn't you?

For if he did.. I might have jumped in and reminded those who those who have TOTALLY lost track of what our jobs as collaborators are...  to serve the site. The fact this has been raised so many times, agreed to by so many who sure as hell do know prog rock reminds one of the old saying

where there is smoke there is fire.   The site is not about being a judge and jury.. it is supposed to be a resource.  The basis is not that everyone should agree..  for there are as many notions of prog as there are fans...  but that the site is a place .. a resource where one can explore.  Not get a summary of what a few swinging dicks with fancy titles think...

I think sarcasm worked rather well there.    We wouldn't want to bring back that whole philosophical question that led collabs to rip each other apart again would we.

On that note..  look at Steely Dan. Added.. and is the site better for it. Goddamn right it is.. who cares if not everyone thought they belonged.. enough did.. and even some have discovered them via their addtion.  So what again is our purpose here.. .I think some have forgotten it.

Ah, yes. The smell of sarcasm was attached to the more general point, not this specific case - although it serves as an example, despite its putrified state.

Related to Prog Related...

You can't add Guns and Roses to PA because of November Rain and Estranged. 

Other hand, I like Judas Priest and (kinda) hate Iron Maiden.