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ole-the-first 
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 Posted: March 21 2015 at 19:17 |
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In Absentia
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This night wounds time.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: March 21 2015 at 19:19 |
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Two similar albums from bands who were influenced by, or even reincarnating progressive music from the 70s (notably Pink Floyd) and putting it in a modern musical setting. |
To be honest, I've never understood where could Pink Floyd influences be found on later PT or any of RH albums. For me, those bands are entirely from different worlds. I can name more Krautrock influences on Radiohead.
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This night wounds time.
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 21 2015 at 20:29 |
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Loved both albums the first time I listened to them. Gradually lost interest in Absentia but appreciated Computer even more. Ok Computer for me.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 21 2015 at 20:44 |
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I never fell for O.K. Computer, love Kid A though.
In Absentia is wonderful, and far from PT's weakest offering. So my vote goes there.
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twosteves
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Posted: March 21 2015 at 21:21 |
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don't see the two albums as similar---but prefer PT more.
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Horizons
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Posted: March 21 2015 at 22:56 |
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Ok Computer. The emotions hit harder, more soul.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Pastmaster
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Posted: March 21 2015 at 22:56 |
twosteves wrote:
don't see the two albums as similar---but prefer PT more. |
Agree 
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richardh
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Posted: March 22 2015 at 04:14 |
If Kid A or In Rainbows had been put against it then it would have been tougher for me. OK Computer is all over the shop , a real random mess of an album that needed much more thought. Its only 'progressive' quality comes from it being self consciously experimental but then they probably learnt a thing or two in its making. Kid A was the real masterwork and is utterly flawless imo. In Rainbows also has beautiful music. In Absentia and Deadwing are the crown jewels as far as PT goes.
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fudgenuts64
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Posted: March 22 2015 at 06:52 |
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OK Computer. Really fantastic album and one of the few more recent albums I hold in the highest regard. In Absentia is great too but it has too many songs I tend to skip and I prefer the earlier PT albums more anyway.
Edited by fudgenuts64 - March 22 2015 at 06:54
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Blacksword
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Posted: March 22 2015 at 08:22 |
richardh wrote:
If Kid A or In Rainbows had been put against it then it would have been tougher for me. OK Computer is all over the shop , a real random mess of an album that needed much more thought. Its only 'progressive' quality comes from it being self consciously experimental but then they probably learnt a thing or two in its making. Kid A was the real masterwork and is utterly flawless imo. In Rainbows also has beautiful music. In Absentia and Deadwing are the crown jewels as far as PT goes. |
Funny how perceptions differ. I think Ok Computer is their masterpiece, ans flows really well..  Never got on with Kid A, but I agree that In Rainbows has moments of excellence. I prefer The Bends to anything that followed OKC. Certainly agree about PT. In Absentia and Deadwing are their best albums. I actually prefer Signify to Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun too.
Edited by Blacksword - March 22 2015 at 08:23
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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uduwudu
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Posted: March 22 2015 at 15:32 |
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In Absentia. Quality melodies and some nice twisted lyrics. Superb atmosphere, great songs, arrangements.
To me the music of P Tree should have the pop cultural appeal that Radiohead enjoy. I mean they do / did, but the scale should be greater. Pink Floyd greater not cheese grater... ;)
Easy choice for me.
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SteveG
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Posted: March 22 2015 at 15:34 |
Tied. No vote!
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richardh
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Posted: March 22 2015 at 16:36 |
Blacksword wrote:
richardh wrote:
If Kid A or In Rainbows had been put against it then it would have been tougher for me. OK Computer is all over the shop , a real random mess of an album that needed much more thought. Its only 'progressive' quality comes from it being self consciously experimental but then they probably learnt a thing or two in its making. Kid A was the real masterwork and is utterly flawless imo. In Rainbows also has beautiful music. In Absentia and Deadwing are the crown jewels as far as PT goes. |
Funny how perceptions differ. I think Ok Computer is their masterpiece, ans flows really well.. Never got on with Kid A, but I agree that In Rainbows has moments of excellence. I prefer The Bends to anything that followed OKC.
Certainly agree about PT. In Absentia and Deadwing are their best albums. I actually prefer Signify to Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun too. |
The Bends is good (probably about 4 stars in my book). Its funny how they got from The Bends to Kid A with just one album in the middle. Signify over Stupid Dream?..hmm. It's back to the idea of experimentation over rock solid song writing albeit 'playing it safe'. I remember reading that Wilson was the 'saviour of prog rock' in Classic Rock magazine just when SD came out . I bought the album and then wondered what was remotely prog about it. I still grew to love it though and would now include it in my top 3 PT albums.
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 22 2015 at 18:02 |
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OK Computer
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: March 23 2015 at 07:23 |
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I like them equally...so, no vote.
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Posted: March 23 2015 at 07:32 |
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For reasons I can't put my finger on, In Absentia has never really clicked with me (I much prefer Deadwing) so my vote goes to OK Computer.
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Roj
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Posted: March 23 2015 at 08:20 |
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I really really struggle with Radiohead, simply down to the vocals. I think their music though is great though, which makes it such a shame as no matter how often I have tried I simply cannot put up with Yorke's vocals. If they were the sort of band that released their albums with a bonus instrumental disc I'd be laughing. Some of the songs on OK Computer are fine but I just find it unlistenable.
In Absentia. I'm a huge fan of PT but this one of my least favourite of their albums. It's certainly not particularly proggy, not that that matters particularly to me. There are a couple of excellent songs (Strip The Soul and Trains stand out for me) but I just can't understand how this is fawned over in comparison to most of their other releases.
I suppose it has to be In Absentia.
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Kotro
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Posted: March 23 2015 at 11:05 |
Roj wrote:
I really really struggle with Radiohead, simply down to the vocals. I think their music though is great though, which makes it such a shame as no matter how often I have tried I simply cannot put up with Yorke's vocals. If they were the sort of band that released their albums with a bonus instrumental disc I'd be laughing. Some of the songs on OK Computer are fine but I just find it unlistenable.
In Absentia. I'm a huge fan of PT but this one of my least favourite of their albums. It's certainly not particularly proggy, not that that matters particularly to me. There are a couple of excellent songs (Strip The Soul and Trains stand out for me) but I just can't understand how this is fawned over in comparison to most of their other releases.
I suppose it has to be In Absentia.
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I subscribe to your opinion almost word for word. 
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Bigger on the inside.
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digdug
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Posted: March 23 2015 at 12:24 |
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I'm one of those guys that just doesn't understand what's so special about Radiohead
PTree is an easy choice for me
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Prog On!
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Pastmaster
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Posted: March 23 2015 at 14:10 |
digdug wrote:
I'm one of those guys that just doesn't understand what's so special about Radiohead
PTree is an easy choice for me
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Agree 
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