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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:18
For me, Ëmëhntëhtt-Rê is an incredibly satisfying album.  I find it can be so beautiful and fun and.... Even though I've listened to it so many times since I got it, I could not review it yet because I'd want to cross-referencing which would take a lot of time and thought.  If I were not to factor in anything such as innovation, originality (considering what they've done before), and judge the album on its own merits without comparison, it would get five stars from me.  I prefer it to K.A. -- I think I'd give K.A. a four. The keyboards in KA III are not that satisfying for me.  I find the newest is well-nuanced, well-textured, and I love the instrumentation and feel.  I don't like the last two tracks so much, but I look at those as coda.  It can be so joyous, as can KA.  What hindered my ebullient reaction somewhat to the album when I first heard it  has to do with familiarity, that I knew the music on the whole already so well, so not quite the element of surprise that would have immediately elevated it.  But I really think it's a terrific album, and I don't think I could rate it less than a 4.5.  Magnificent and mature, even if it has some inanely geekish moments.  It has the best of Magma (post 1001 Degrees) and Offering in the mix.

I still would do things a little differently with the album if I could. Sometimes some parts are mixed down a  little more than I would like, the balancing could be better in parts, and in some cases there is not quite as much as full 3D sounds as I would like, and would have added some more elements to the music in places, and I would have brought in some more harmonic complexity to certain parts, while keeping the simplicity of others.  When I was listening to it before with headphones I was adding kinds of harmonies to it in my mind (something I commonly do when I listen to music because harmonies are so important to me).  It would benefit from more complexity, more contrast still, and can sound forced in parts. Never-the-less, a wonderful album, I think.  I wonder how I'll feel about it in another month, though.

I think I overplayed it a bit though, and so as not to get tired of it, I'm listening to albums by  Egisto Macchi now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:19
I just saw a horse with no owner walking on the cross street. Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:21
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Klaus Schulze ftmfw


wat

For the mother-f**king win
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:21
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I just saw a horse with no owner walking on the cross street. Shocked

Shocked

NO WAI
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:29
Was it a "horse with no name"?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:34
Hi Greg,

My count is currently at four times, and the first was the most special, because I just stopped doing anything, put the headphones on, and listened in a trance. The effect was fantastic. I like Part I for its parts with surprisingly free or let's say malleable form. Mirrored in Part IV, it's less powerfull, and I think it doesn't end that well the epic (the last seconds, though, are fairly predictable, and good).

I like Fuhnerarium Kahnt. A friend who saw Magma play live said E-R is really, really dark - something I feel it in certain hotspots, but not overall. But the addenda, in form of Fuhnerarium Kahnt is in the hopeless, pitch-black zone of their music, and it struck me just like that. Superb, that's all I can say.

Other than Part IV and the annexed pieces, there's nothing arguable about E-R, it's really good. The first section of Part II is exactly what I wanted to hear from the old classic fragments, and it's sung with a good amount of flair, accents and emotion. Doweri wi loi, doweri wi loi, doweri wi loi, doweri wi loi, doweri wi rheu si... mmmmm!

There is though a three seconds fright, as the whole singing ends with a brutal shout (Du zeihne storme werden! - so I hear it as phonetically as possible), and it the context of the recent controversy, this does sound a bit fishy, and even Vander converts to what seems almost the Fuhrer's voice. Goosebumps!

Developement up to Zombies is also nice, and when that part kicked it, with the bass, I immediately though "descend an octave". And it did after seconds. I love the more bassy Zeuhl from Magma (such as Ork's Alarm, from Kohntarkosz), so these moments are gems for me.

As for Part III, I initially thought the first section drags a bit (now I think it fuels on to a new chapter pretty quickly, and well too), but the rest is also incredible.


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I'm still studying the album, through repeated listens. One would say from the things above that I'm definitely impressed by E-R (which I am indeed), in a way this is better than most. I do however stick to K.A., mainly because it was a revelation, at the time I first heard it. Just like E-R, it has certain fragments that don't shine out, otherwise its Part I is spotless, and the best of the other three also combined to something asploding.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:37
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I just saw a horse with no owner walking on the cross street. Shocked

Shocked

NO WAI


No kidding.

Was brushing my teeth, when dad yelled "look out the window", and I saw him. Stood there until he disappeared far down the boulevard.

The street itself was pretty empty, but the few people there were also starring in disbelief.

Unfortunately, the horse definitely seemed disoriented. In a good shape, but not quite the stallion.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:39
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Klaus Schulze ftmfw


wat

For the mother-f**king win


Ah, of course.

I would have agreed unconditionally, but I was in the mood for clarifications. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:45
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Actually, the device you are talking about is a Van de Graaf Generator.  For some reason the band screwed up the name.

Oh and yay for holding a girl's hand.  Tongue

That has always bothered me. Maybe they just had a weird way of spelling it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:48
It's also Van de Graaff.

Wiki says:
The name was suggested by Smith (the misspellings are accidental).

No big deal to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:50
Christian Van der Graaf Generator?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:57
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Christian Van der Graaf Generator?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 17:29
I finally stopped procrastinating and wrote my first review.  This one was of Quella Vecchia Locanda's "Il Tempo Della Gioia."  I gave it four stars.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 17:30
Nice. I'd have to hack in to an admin account and ban you if you gave it any less. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 17:35
I should write a one star review for the new Magma just to f**k things up.  Evil Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 17:36
A 1* rate/short review was, not long time ago, written, but apparently removed because the member was suspiciously biased in everything he reviewed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 17:38
I thought he also had plagiarized a couple reviews.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 17:44
Rico, you had mentioned a while back that you thought 2009 was a lesser year for RPI.  I finally got up a list of the 2009 releases in the Appreciation thread.  I don't know, looks like a pretty tasty year to me....but of course there are also many fewer Italian releases than the big subs.....so by comparison our list does look pretty meager. 

RPI are the little guys on the site, but we love our new albums too!  ClapBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 17:50
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Rico, you had mentioned a while back that you thought 2009 was a lesser year for RPI.  I finally got up a list of the 2009 releases in the Appreciation thread.  I don't know, looks like a pretty tasty year to me....but of course there are also many fewer Italian releases than the big subs.....so by comparison our list does look pretty meager. 

RPI are the little guys on the site, but we love our new albums too!  ClapBig smile


I need to get into RPI a little more. I have very few albums from the genre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2009 at 17:56
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Rico, you had mentioned a while back that you thought 2009 was a lesser year for RPI.  I finally got up a list of the 2009 releases in the Appreciation thread.  I don't know, looks like a pretty tasty year to me....but of course there are also many fewer Italian releases than the big subs.....so by comparison our list does look pretty meager. 

RPI are the little guys on the site, but we love our new albums too!  ClapBig smile


Posting a bit there.
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