Video & PC Game Discussion

TheProgtologist wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: I've been playing The Saboteur for the last couple days.  It's pretty much Grand Theft Auto meets James Bond, set in Nazi-infested Paris.   Not too bad for a sandbox game.I thought the parkouring was well done and liked the fact that the city was in black and white and as you liberated areas they would slowly turn to color.I thought the controls were a bit loose and the camera could be buggy at times.

The controls work fine on PC, I find.

uh, the next PSP will be almost as powerful as a PS3.

It still amuses me that console gamers claim their graphics are as good as a PCs.

I hardly see why you're looking to Nintendo as a savior. Sure they can make an ok platformer out of every two dozen that come out, but I just can't take them very seriously in an artistic sense. Sure they're a force of nature monetarily but they cater to casuals like nothing else. And talk about being behind the curve with graphics. Yeah the Wii 2 might look nicer than current gen but you disdain consoles for setting back graphical standards now. What about then? Granted there's a maturity problem with all games on consoles now, but I can't see Nintendo's family-friendly success story (the Wii) giving way to mature stories and non-arm flailing gameplay. A controller is intuitive if it's not handling too much (unlike PC ports to consoles) but the Wiimote has always been nonsense and limited gameplay significantly.

The future seems to be in indie games, for better or for worse. I'd like to get more and more games like Eternal Darkness, Shadow of the Colossus, and so on. But that era may be past. It's not financially supportable to make artistic games anymore when you can just make brown space marines. I guess it's time to settle for 1-2 hour indie games that may be well designed platformers (Limbo). Lamenting the death of the video game story.

Bought Starcraft 2 last friday, I really like it, even if I lose every single online match I play, I'm still learning after all!

stonebeard wrote: I hardly see why you're looking to Nintendo as a savior. Sure they can make an ok platformer out of every two dozen that come out, but I just can't take them very seriously in an artistic sense. Sure they're a force of nature monetarily but they cater to casuals like nothing else. And talk about being behind the curve with graphics. Yeah the Wii 2 might look nicer than current gen but you disdain consoles for setting back graphical standards now. What about then? Granted there's a maturity problem with all games on consoles now, but I can't see Nintendo's family-friendly success story (the Wii) giving way to mature stories and non-arm flailing gameplay. A controller is intuitive if it's not handling too much (unlike PC ports to consoles) but the Wiimote has always been nonsense and limited gameplay significantly.

The point was that someone may finally make a console that will push us forward from this rut of 6-year-old graphics technology that has been stifling gaming. The Wii has terrible graphics, for sure, but there's still potential right now for Nintendo to just get out there and deliver a graphical marvel. The market is right for it, anyway.

stonebeard wrote: The future seems to be in indie games, for better or for worse. I'd like to get more and more games like Eternal Darkness, Shadow of the Colossus, and so on. But that era may be past. It's not financially supportable to make artistic games anymore when you can just make brown space marines. I guess it's time to settle for 1-2 hour indie games that may be well designed platformers (Limbo). Lamenting the death of the video game story.

Silicon Knights is a pretty standard dev house and Team Ico is a division of a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sony. There's absolutely nothing indie about them. Silicon Knights went on to make a futuristic game based on Norse mythology, which sold rather poorly. Team Ico is currently working on the next Ico-themed game, The Last Guardian. Nothing has changed, really. Big developers like Quantic Dream can put out blockbusters which are at times difficult to call games. And hell, what of the whimsy of Little Big Planet or the forboding of Demon's Souls? Media Molecule was a fairly large offshoot of Lionhead Studios (Fable series), and is now owned entirely by Sony; Atlus has been churning out two or three titles per year for more than two decades.

//EDIT: I just realized that Atlus was the publisher. The dev was From Software, more known for pumping out the Armored Core series and for making a few ninja-themed games like Tenchu and Ninja Blade. Yes, it bothers me enough to edit.

Yes, indie devs do tend to release products that are more visionary. The format often lends itself to that. Limbo isn't a game that could be improved by a big budget. And what will you do with World of Goo? Make it 3D, like Team 17 tried to do with Worms? Small developers will make the kind of game you like because that's what small developers are good for. Super Meat Boy, good as it may be, is not a brave game in any way. Sure, it will kick your ass from here to Siberia, but what does SMB do that hasn't already been done? And what of Amnesia? A throwback to the horror games of old when you had no weapons to fight back. Sure, it's a first-person version with physics-based puzzles, but nothing there is really remarkable either. But hell, I still own all 4 of Frictional's games.

James wrote: A quick question because I'm not familiar with the system but can you use a normal Nintendo controller on Wii's?

You can use the old Gamecube controllers for those games which support it.


Edited by Gamemako - April 16 2011 at 18:28

Maybe then Nintendo should develop more games with the Gamecube controller in mind, for the Wii?

And grr, I forgot to pick up the Korcari Wilds Codex right at the beginning of DA2 with this character and I can't go back and get it!  Ah well.  It's not game breaking, of course.  I just like to pick up all of the Codex entries.

Bought GT5 weeks ago, but finally have my PS3 back.

Cant wait to get going, it feels pretty good and I know has an insane number of cars and tracks.

I just wanna drive an F1 car on LeMans

James wrote: Maybe then Nintendo should develop more games with the Gamecube controller in mind, for the Wii? And grr, I forgot to pick up the Korcari Wilds Codex right at the beginning of DA2 with this character and I can't go back and get it!  Ah well.  It's not game breaking, of course.  I just like to pick up all of the Codex entries.

I'm an old school fan and I'm still getting the best of my little PS2 with games like Alone in the Dark and Metal Gear Solid 3 and Killzone, not too impressed by Wii or Wii2 and I agree with the discussion here. There's no way you can really take seriously Nintendo with the lack of dedication on the graphics. 

It's fantastic!  First person shooter without any shooting (by you anyway)!  Basically, a puzzle game from the first person perspective.  Highly addicting!