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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2024 at 20:10
So you're an average 1st grader ?   Wow, quite an admission.

In that case there's no point in debating with a 1st grader, is there.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2024 at 20:47
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

So you're an average 1st grader ?   Wow, quite an admission.

In that case there's no point in debating with a 1st grader, is there.




not even, i'd consider myself in kindergarten.   On  the scale i was referring to,  where would you rate yourself? Are you in pre-school yet?  crawling or walking? still dribbling on yourself Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2024 at 21:17
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

So you're an average 1st grader ?   Wow, quite an admission.

In that case there's no point in debating with a 1st grader, is there.

not even, i'd consider myself in kindergarten.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2024 at 10:37
Those big needles can be pretty scary to little ones, thats why they get a lollipop after they have been injected with the CIA's gene altering synthetic DNA. Kind of reminds me of the good old days when LSD supposedly caused birth defects and marijuana made male breasts larger.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 08:05
^ I guess the question should rather be: "What does it say about the American voter?"



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 08:49
good question
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 10:46
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ I guess the question should rather be: "What does it say about the American voter?"


It says at least two things,
1 - They are easily conned by a con artist.
2 - The other choice is not exactly inspiring anybody.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 12:22
I'll take the guy not exactly inspiring anybody.

Truth be told, Joe Biden is one of the best presidents we've had in my lifetime (I'm 57) .



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 13:04
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'll take the guy not exactly inspiring anybody.

Truth be told, Joe Biden is one of the best presidents we've had in my lifetime (I'm 57) .



Well he is an improvement over the guy who encourages his followers to attack police officers and thinks infectious diseases are going to just go away as in some kind of "miracle", but I wish Joe was better at communicating what he is doing about certain problems and better at convincing the public he is doing what he can.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 13:55
^ So do I.

But quite frankly that isn't really the problem we have.   The problem we have is that Right-wing conservatives have realized they are slowly losing power & majority public support, don't like that, and have decided to lie, cheat and steal in the hopes of winning elections and power.   It is disgusting and illegal and in the end, they will pay.   All of them.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 14:25
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ I guess the question should rather be: "What does it say about the American voter?"

The "American voter" ?   Don't lump all good-thinking democratic Americans in with a shrinking population of authoritarian assh*les who hide behind the Bible and think immigrants & gay people should be put in camps.

The question is what does all of what's happening say about Conservative voters. Don't blame Joe Biden for the sociopathic mess that is the GOP.   Period.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 15:06
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ I guess the question should rather be: "What does it say about the American voter?"

The "American voter" ?   Don't lump all good-thinking democratic Americans in with a shrinking population of authoritarian assh*les who hide behind the Bible and think immigrants & gay people should be put in camps.

The question is what does all of what's happening say about Conservative voters. Don't blame Joe Biden for the sociopathic mess that is the GOP.   Period.



Please provide data proving your claim that American Christians want to put gay people in camps.  And please do the same for immigrants.  

A sizable majority of Americans (78%) say the large number of migrants seeking to enter this country at the U.S.-Mexico border is either a crisis (45%) or a major problem (32%), according to the Pew Research Center survey, conducted Jan. 16-21, 2024, among 5,140 adults.

Most Americans want to stem the flow of illegal immigrants into America.  I've never met an American who wishes to put immigrants or gay folks into "concentration camps".  Is that what you meant by camps?  If not...what kind of camps did you mean?Wink    Summer vacation camps, basketball skill camps, nature camps, YMCA camps? 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 15:43
Trumps claims to be a Christian as does MTG, so one cannot speak for every group, but you asked for it ---

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plans-sweeping-undocumented-immigrant-roundups-detention-camps-report-2023-11-11/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98pzkgjkLvo


As for putting Gay people in camps that was a projection and I can only assume. But you need to face reality: Trump, Steve Bannon and all their sociopathic followers would probably like nothing better.   But yes, I am guessing on that one.

As for your unfunny & frivolous "Summer vaction camps, basketball camps, nature camps, YMCA", that just illustrates the lack of seriousness with which conservative voters take what the Bannon/Trump coalition would truly like to see.   You seem like a decent person but you are allying yourself with Fascists.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 16:06
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Trumps claims to be a Christian as does MTG, so one cannot speak for every group, but you asked for it ---

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plans-sweeping-undocumented-immigrant-roundups-detention-camps-report-2023-11-11/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98pzkgjkLvo


As for putting Gay people in camps that was a projection and I can only assume. But you need to face reality: Trump, Steve Bannon and all their sociopathic followers would probably like nothing better.   But yes, I am guessing on that one.

As for your unfunny & frivolous "Summer vaction camps, basketball camps, nature camps, YMCA", that just illustrates the lack of seriousness with which conservative voters take what the Bannon/Trump coalition would truly like to see.   You seem like a decent person but you are allying yourself with Fascists.


https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/president-obama-wants-continue-imprisoning-immigrant-families

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 16:37
^ That is a non-denial denial.   Did you vote for Obama based on that information.   If no, why not?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2024 at 19:44
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^ That is a non-denial denial.   Did you vote for Obama based on that information.   If no, why not?

No, I didn't vote for Obama.  I did not vote in 2008 or 2012.  I didn't like either choice.  I refuse to vote for pro-war candidates. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2024 at 10:44
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'll take the guy not exactly inspiring anybody.

Truth be told, Joe Biden is one of the best presidents we've had in my lifetime (I'm 57) .



We must be living in a parallel reality. I'm 60 and consider Biden as one the the worst in my lifetime.  Through abhorrent fear tactics who divided our country the most?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2024 at 16:20
^ Really?   You have nothing to stand on.   Trump and his Traitorous followers are going down.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2024 at 16:25
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ That is a non-denial denial.   Did you vote for Obama based on that information.   If no, why not?

No, I didn't vote for Obama.  I did not vote in 2008 or 2012.  I didn't like either choice.  I refuse to vote for pro-war candidates. Wink

Does this mean you’re going to vote for Trump? Wink  He’s the only president in recent history not to start a new war.  He even got us out of Afghanistan… Bush talked about it, Obama talked about it, Trump actually set a date.  Then Biden came into power and we all know how smooth that withdrawal went.

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