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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:41
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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/latin/beginners/lesson01/default.htm

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I guess I need to focus more and write stuff down...

I also want to start drawing again, 'cause I can sketch satisfactorily and I want to try and improve.



 
That would most definitely help. Big%20smile
 
The link you showed seems somewhat helpful, anyway. Just remember that with any verb you deal with, the objective endings are
 
-o, -s, -t, -mus, -tis, -nt   for 1st singular (then 2nd sg, 3rd sg) through 3rd plural
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:44
Well for me, I guess as a budding musician, I plan to learn a whole heap of music theory, which in way is a language in itself, and for me, and probably many others, it always seems to work best when you start applying the theory in a practical manner i.e such as writing songs with the extra theory you're learnt, applying new concepts to improvising etc and that way it helps it stick in my mind more than just reading over it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:44
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Times like this you want to be Itsy.
The dude has a massive IQ.
 
Yeah, I know what you mean there... but I actually doubt the influence of IQ upon whether you become a good student or an attentive person. IQ hardly tells anything other than one's ability to take a certain test with certain questions and be able to decipher them in a quick enough time... I take it heavily with a grain of salt.
 
I don't think I have that high of an IQ at all, and most people I talk to would be extremely shocked, as I've gotten accusations of being a genius. I always tell them that I may not be the most naturally smart person, but it's a never-ending and extremely persistent thirst to learn that drove my interests the way they did in my childhood.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:44
Yep, I guess I should actually have a learning regimen of some kind, 'cause I am useless at remembering stuff like that.

Bands and artists and links between artists and random stuff like that, I can remember rather well though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:46
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Listening to music distracts me from most things, to be fair.  I should listen to really boring music whilst reading, I guess... maybe I'll listen to some Rush or something, whilst trying to read. LOL
 
Haha, possibly. LOLWink
 
You just have to find a method that works best for you depending on the material. Whether writing it out, doing something simultaneously, reading it out loud to yourself, or simply reading it repeatedly a couple times... or any number of methods. I'm sure you'll get it. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:47
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Well for me, I guess as a budding musician, I plan to learn a whole heap of music theory, which in way is a language in itself, and for me, and probably many others, it always seems to work best when you start applying the theory in a practical manner i.e such as writing songs with the extra theory you're learnt, applying new concepts to improvising etc and that way it helps it stick in my mind more than just reading over it.
 
You're definitely onto something there. I learn practically as well, but I can always learn by reading just as easily. That's when it comes down to personal preference/methods on learning something. Maybe if there was a much more practical way at learning a foreign language you might have become more interested in it (instead of just reading text).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:48
Well I'm a flawed genius with a crap IQ too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:49
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Yep, I guess I should actually have a learning regimen of some kind, 'cause I am useless at remembering stuff like that.

Bands and artists and links between artists and random stuff like that, I can remember rather well though.
 
It might just be a matter of interest as well. Wink
 
You might be at least somewhat interested in learning a foreign language, but obviously you're going to remember aspects about music you love much more easily than you would something you don't enjoy as much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:50
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Well I'm a flawed genius with a crap IQ too.
 
I avoid labelling myself with any sort of IQ or genius labels, because they don't really help in any way. When I approach anything that I want to accomplish I simply do it to the best of my abilities and with the highest amount of perserverance. I don't think there is any one qualification that can be measured by a test or anything similar that would make someone a "genius" and someone else not a genius. It's ridiculous sounding to me. Everyone's their own person. Every individual should be treated separately as a different individual, rather than lumped into a category or "equally". We're all different, so why should we be given the same exact treatment? Opportunity is another matter.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:51
But I'd probably enjoy learning a foreign language... I want to be able to understand those Italian lyrics!  The same applies for all those French/Belgian RIO bands I enjoy.  Understanding what they're singing about will make my love of those bands even more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:52
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Times like this you want to be Itsy.
The dude has a massive IQ.
 
Yeah, I know what you mean there... but I actually doubt the influence of IQ upon whether you become a good student or an attentive person. IQ hardly tells anything other than one's ability to take a certain test with certain questions and be able to decipher them in a quick enough time... I take it heavily with a grain of salt.
 
I don't think I have that high of an IQ at all, and most people I talk to would be extremely shocked, as I've gotten accusations of being a genius. I always tell them that I may not be the most naturally smart person, but it's a never-ending and extremely persistent thirst to learn that drove my interests the way they did in my childhood.


Oddly, yes, I've had that experience too, where I've come across many people whom have believed I was a genius or something, or bordering on it, when really I must only have an IQ of no more or not much more than 110.
I mean, it's obvious that there is some correlation between a level of success one might achieve and IQ.
I think, at a certain level, say, I dunno, around 110 perhaps, sure you don't have all the brains in the world, but at least at that level of intelligence+hard work you could achieve more than an apathetic guy with an IQ of 160.
Whereas, I tend to think, once your intelligence is below a certain level, no amount of hard work can necessarily make you great at everything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:53
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Well I'm a flawed genius with a crap IQ too.
 
I avoid labelling myself with any sort of IQ or genius labels, because they don't really help in any way. When I approach anything that I want to accomplish I simply do it to the best of my abilities and with the highest amount of perserverance. I don't think there is any one qualification that can be measured by a test or anything similar that would make someone a "genius" and someone else not a genius. It's ridiculous sounding to me. Everyone's their own person. Every individual should be treated separately as a different individual, rather than lumped into a category or "equally". We're all different, so why should we be given the same exact treatment? Opportunity is another matter.


I agree and that's why I'm a flawed genius. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:53
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But I'd probably enjoy learning a foreign language... I want to be able to understand those Italian lyrics!  The same applies for all those French/Belgian RIO bands I enjoy.  Understanding what they're singing about will make my love of those bands even more.
 
Then you should be able to do it. As long as the interest and motivation is there, you could accomplish anything with enough effort. Wink
 
Now you just have to find the best materials for learning it on your own. Heck, even websites like the one you showed me are better than nothing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:56
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Times like this you want to be Itsy.
The dude has a massive IQ.
 
Yeah, I know what you mean there... but I actually doubt the influence of IQ upon whether you become a good student or an attentive person. IQ hardly tells anything other than one's ability to take a certain test with certain questions and be able to decipher them in a quick enough time... I take it heavily with a grain of salt.
 
I don't think I have that high of an IQ at all, and most people I talk to would be extremely shocked, as I've gotten accusations of being a genius. I always tell them that I may not be the most naturally smart person, but it's a never-ending and extremely persistent thirst to learn that drove my interests the way they did in my childhood.


Oddly, yes, I've had that experience too, where I've come across many people whom have believed I was a genius or something, or bordering on it, when really I must only have an IQ of no more or not much more than 110.
I mean, it's obvious that there is some correlation between a level of success one might achieve and IQ.
I think, at a certain level, say, I dunno, around 110 perhaps, sure you don't have all the brains in the world, but at least at that level of intelligence+hard work you could achieve more than an apathetic guy with an IQ of 160.
Whereas, I tend to think, once your intelligence is below a certain level, no amount of hard work can necessarily make you great at everything.
 
Possibly. But even then, maybe there's an individual who simply can recognize hardly any of the patterns tested by IQ, but this person might be naturally drawn to something else that they're much more naturally fit for.
 
I believe everyone could do pretty much anything that one would want to with enough effort, interest, and motivation. How much effort it would take though depends on how naturally interested and fit for that occupation/position the person is and how much motivation the person has to get it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:57
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

But I'd probably enjoy learning a foreign language... I want to be able to understand those Italian lyrics!  The same applies for all those French/Belgian RIO bands I enjoy.  Understanding what they're singing about will make my love of those bands even more.
 
Then you should be able to do it. As long as the interest and motivation is there, you could accomplish anything with enough effort. Wink
 
Now you just have to find the best materials for learning it on your own. Heck, even websites like the one you showed me are better than nothing.


That's the problem with the Internet though... there's not enough Free material around.  I've checked too... I found some YouTube videos that teach basic French but they're not professional ones.

I want to minimise my book purchases to be fair.  I have a French Dictionary somewhere that I used at School, so that will help a bit.

I just never have time to read... yet I enjoy reading. LOL  If I bought books, they'd just gather dust over time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 09:57
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Well I'm a flawed genius with a crap IQ too.
 
I avoid labelling myself with any sort of IQ or genius labels, because they don't really help in any way. When I approach anything that I want to accomplish I simply do it to the best of my abilities and with the highest amount of perserverance. I don't think there is any one qualification that can be measured by a test or anything similar that would make someone a "genius" and someone else not a genius. It's ridiculous sounding to me. Everyone's their own person. Every individual should be treated separately as a different individual, rather than lumped into a category or "equally". We're all different, so why should we be given the same exact treatment? Opportunity is another matter.


I agree and that's why I'm a flawed genius. Wink
 
Is there such a thing as a genius who isn't flawed then? Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 10:00
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

But I'd probably enjoy learning a foreign language... I want to be able to understand those Italian lyrics!  The same applies for all those French/Belgian RIO bands I enjoy.  Understanding what they're singing about will make my love of those bands even more.
 
Then you should be able to do it. As long as the interest and motivation is there, you could accomplish anything with enough effort. Wink
 
Now you just have to find the best materials for learning it on your own. Heck, even websites like the one you showed me are better than nothing.


That's the problem with the Internet though... there's not enough Free material around.  I've checked too... I found some YouTube videos that teach basic French but they're not professional ones.
 
Yeah, unfortunately. I prefer to use books for that reason... but I guess whatever you manage to dig up can help somehow. You can also find someone else who might be willing to teach you some basics.

I want to minimise my book purchases to be fair.  I have a French Dictionary somewhere that I used at School, so that will help a bit.
 
I don't blame you there. Dictionaries definitely help in translation, but it'd be harder than hell to learn just from that I'd imagine.

I just never have time to read... yet I enjoy reading. LOL  If I bought books, they'd just gather dust over time.
 
My problem is more of that I'm a somewhat picky reader. I love reading and I'll try anything, but if I'm going to purchase a book to read I want to know that I'm going to love it. At the moment, I've read nearly all of the books on my shelves. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 10:00
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Well I'm a flawed genius with a crap IQ too.
 
I avoid labelling myself with any sort of IQ or genius labels, because they don't really help in any way. When I approach anything that I want to accomplish I simply do it to the best of my abilities and with the highest amount of perserverance. I don't think there is any one qualification that can be measured by a test or anything similar that would make someone a "genius" and someone else not a genius. It's ridiculous sounding to me. Everyone's their own person. Every individual should be treated separately as a different individual, rather than lumped into a category or "equally". We're all different, so why should we be given the same exact treatment? Opportunity is another matter.


I agree and that's why I'm a flawed genius. Wink
 
Is there such a thing as a genius who isn't flawed then? Wink


Probably.

I'm also a want-to-be perfectionist. LOL

I try very hard to a perfectionist when it comes to writing... but I fail so often, I may as well give up. Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 10:00
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Well I'm a flawed genius with a crap IQ too.
 
I avoid labelling myself with any sort of IQ or genius labels, because they don't really help in any way. When I approach anything that I want to accomplish I simply do it to the best of my abilities and with the highest amount of perserverance. I don't think there is any one qualification that can be measured by a test or anything similar that would make someone a "genius" and someone else not a genius. It's ridiculous sounding to me. Everyone's their own person. Every individual should be treated separately as a different individual, rather than lumped into a category or "equally". We're all different, so why should we be given the same exact treatment? Opportunity is another matter.


Well indeed, take music for example.
Only 1 in 10000 have perfect pitch..... 0.01 per cent of the population.
But yet, how do you explain why in the field of music, so many people without that natural advantage are still geniuses and/or virtuosos?
Hardwork.
As I believe, even those without perfect pitch, and even just an IQ of maybe 105 or so can be a musical genius if they are willing to put in the hard yards.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 10:02
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Well I'm a flawed genius with a crap IQ too.
 
I avoid labelling myself with any sort of IQ or genius labels, because they don't really help in any way. When I approach anything that I want to accomplish I simply do it to the best of my abilities and with the highest amount of perserverance. I don't think there is any one qualification that can be measured by a test or anything similar that would make someone a "genius" and someone else not a genius. It's ridiculous sounding to me. Everyone's their own person. Every individual should be treated separately as a different individual, rather than lumped into a category or "equally". We're all different, so why should we be given the same exact treatment? Opportunity is another matter.


I agree and that's why I'm a flawed genius. Wink
 
Is there such a thing as a genius who isn't flawed then? Wink


Probably.

I'm also a want-to-be perfectionist. LOL

I try very hard to a perfectionist when it comes to writing... but I fail so often, I may as well give up. Embarrassed
 
Haha, I know what you mean there. Sometimes it's the easiest thing in the world to be your own biggest critic when you demand perfection, particularly in writing... but giving up won't help that at all. I've read a few of your reviews and they seem quite fine to me. With more time you'll be able to express your thoughts more clearly... maybe when writing you can take a break and then come back... or write all your thoughts down as quickly as you can and then come back and edit them or whatever. Again, methods will depend on the person here. I usually like doing all of my writing for something in one sitting if I can, so I keep the same train of thought.
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