Reviews discussion

Without commenting on this specific individual, as I don't know/care about the individual case, I will say this.  Generally, the site is overwhelmingly positive for artists.  The smart ones will take the good and ignore the bad, and end up with a vast net positive.  The unwise will venture into the forums to complain about bad reviews or get uppity with the very people here providing this framework.  Let it go, artists, you do yourself a disservice by getting defensive over your treatment at music sites.   It's a huge turn-off to me. 

Dean wrote: Easy Money wrote: I will narrow it down to one case, last night a poorly written 5 star review that seemed obviously phony showed up and the admins deleted it. It was deleted for a reason, they could see it and I could see it too. The admins call the shots here, and they can explain to you why that review was obviously bogus. The review was taken down because it broke Review guidelines - it wasn't a review, it was a criticism of other reviews. There was nothing phoney about it, it was just not a review, it was a rant.

Thanks for the clarification.

Finnforest wrote: Without commenting on this specific individual, as I don't know/care about the individual case, I will say this.  Generally, the site is overwhelmingly positive for artists.  The smart ones will take the good and ignore the bad, and end up with a vast net positive.  The unwise will venture into the forums to complain about bad reviews or get uppity with the very people here providing this framework.  Let it go, artists, you do yourself a disservice by getting defensive over your treatment at music sites.   It's a huge turn-off to me.

.............And Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you too, Easy Money. 

Edited by toroddfuglesteg - December 23 2010 at 10:38

GuyM wrote: Nothing to do with validity or the like ..I just like just accuracy...yes people can get things wrong (like in that finger tapping example) but that is an honest mistake IMO..because of an assumption..but, when I do any writing I try to make sure I verify my facts first. That is all I ask for really...best endeavours and no wild statements. The whole dis-service and turn off thing statement are very fine words indeed so long as you are not on the receiving end of it I can assure you!!!...you may able to sit by while people call you a liar in public and say not a word but I won't, sorry...I think it is simply unfair to accuse someone with no facts to back it up...it is an injustice and I speak out against it wherever I find it...I try to admit it when I AM wrong   If you think i'll shut up just so you'll buy an album of mine, then you are sadly mstaken..I don't need the money that much!   That's all folks G

My facts are the weird reviews that show up. Look, I probably shouldn't accuse a site member of anything, so I apologised to you for that.

But why don't you likewise not accuse me of not having any facts.

snobb wrote: Snow Dog wrote: I think some people may just be too cynical Guy. There is a lot of it about. There are enough of them, believe me   If cynical means not naive ...

Easy Money wrote: No, I think phony reviews are very easy to spot. Next time one comes on the front page I will report it. Any artist is going to get attract the occasional weird review, but when an artist is attracting a lot of those kind of reviews its because they have been soliciting reviews through fan clubs, web sites etc.

Dean wrote: Easy Money wrote: No, I think phony reviews are very easy to spot. Next time one comes on the front page I will report it. Any artist is going to get attract the occasional weird review, but when an artist is attracting a lot of those kind of reviews its because they have been soliciting reviews through fan clubs, web sites etc. Gaaah!!!! That's not fact, that's not proof, that's not evidence. If you are going to make statements like that then you have to present substantiated irrefutable proof. Gut-feel and intuition is unacceptable.

Well, I know a web site is not a classroom, but you wouldn't last 5 minutes in a room full of teenagers with that kind of thinking. Cops know it too, when it doesn't make sense there is a reason, things happen because people want them to.

There's a big difference between having suspicions and laying out your case. Despite seeing an obvious pattern and having enough experience to know how that pattern typically happens, you still have to grant each individual reasonable benefit of the doubt before you call them out.