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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 08:10
Genesis bought a Mellotron (King Crimsons) because they loved the sound from In the Court
I would call it clear influence
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 08:21
^I wouldn't. I'd call it what is. Liking the sound of an instrument.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 08:23
Id call it likeing an album, prior to their symphonic period, in a style not that far from what they are doing, influence 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 08:34
Bill Bruford :
I think everybody in Yes and King Crimson thought that Genesis would never make it because they sounded like a combination of the two groups. We thought they might be too late — we’d been there and done it. We saw them along the lines of ‘Genesis are quite fun, but they’ve got a guitarist who sits down like Robert Fripp and a drummer who plays a bit like Bill.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 17:48
I think it's a battle between GENESIS and KING CRIMSON so far for most influential prog band. My vote would go to Genesis In a heart beat because I'm such a huge fan of Neo prog and I love how they started it all with album TRICK OF THE TAIL. Still to this day one of the greatest prog albums of all time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 18:21
Genesis? Never. I like the band a lot, but influential? Only on bands who have little to contribute themselves. Crimson only had one relevant album, but that was enough to set the genre on its way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2012 at 14:00
Hi

It's so hard to say, so many different bands have influenced so many different bands then influencing more bands...

My clumsy point being as prog is an ever growing and evolving organism it's impossible to say where the influence starts and when it ends, as neither truly exist
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2012 at 05:14
There's some truth in that, but if any band could be said to be the crucial influence, it would be 1-2-3, yet because they never recorded till later, they remain relatively obscure in many people's minds.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2012 at 16:47
Influential to whom?
Influential in what way?
Does not influence come in many forms and is different to varying groups?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2012 at 17:03
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 03:00
Originally posted by giselle giselle wrote:

There's some truth in that, but if any band could be said to be the crucial influence, it would be 1-2-3, yet because they never recorded till later, they remain relatively obscure in many people's minds.

yep, 1-2-3 was a definitive moment - but hold on, that was the 60s, this post is supposed to begin from the 70s.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 07:33
Hi all

I'm after a bit of clarification

Are we talking here what band influenced me, which makes it all personal to me and you and you and you!

Or are you asking what band influenced other bands, which leaves us with just a few fore runners to choose from?

Sorry, new, please feel free to slap me about!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 11:36
Which bands influenced other bands, which is why I said 1-2-3 rather than what prog became because of that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2012 at 16:45
The Nice probably had some influence on the early Canterbury scene. Along with the Moody Blues.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2012 at 21:34
When we think about the word, influential I think we have to think about what bands helped shape other great bands. Pink Floyd certainly paved the way for a lot of truly wonderful prog bands. Dream Theater is no exception.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2013 at 12:30
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2013 at 20:07
Originally posted by giselle giselle wrote:

 Crimson only had one relevant album, but that was enough to set the genre on its way.

Laughable. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2013 at 20:32
I kind of hate to simplify it this way but the truth is that the most influential bands tend to be the ones who are the most well known.

So I'll just list a few randomly:

The Nice/ ELP (Emerson is probably more influential as a keyboard player than either of his respective bands)
King Crimson
Yes
Genesis (for their prog era 70-77 of course)
Gentle Giant
Van der Graaf Generator
Magma
Camel
Rush
Marillion
IQ
Flower Kings
Porcupine Tree


As for newer bands there really are hardly any that I would say are influential. MOst newer bands starting these days are still mostly influenced by the classic prog of the seventies.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2013 at 20:43
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by giselle giselle wrote:

 Crimson only had one relevant album, but that was enough to set the genre on its way.
Laughable. 
Easy, you two.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - January 05 2013 at 20:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2013 at 20:59
Ok, a few I left off the first time:

Moody BLues (although they never really developed into a true prog band imo they were nonetheless very influential to prog bands)

The Beatles -see above

Pink Floyd

Soft Machine

Caravan

Dream Theater (maybe not the first prog metal band but probably the most influential)

There's probably a few more(mostly from the seventies ofcourse).

Sorry to burst anyones bubble but prog has never been as big as it was back then and so newer bands who discover prog are discovering the old prog first(not counting heavy metal or prog metal or anything postie or metally. :) )
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