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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 10:21
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Why is this such a hard fight? I don't get it. This site has gone out of its way to be spuriously inclusive, but this is where the big stand is made? This is what I have determined based on certain PA additions.

Bjork - Everything is prog
Tori Amos - Everything is rock
Metallica - Nothing else matters
Hang on a second, hereAngry. It's not THIS SITE that has gone out of their wayt to include these artistes you cite. It is some fanboys using their colllabs status and abusing their prerogatives and privileges that incluuded these against 90% of the other collabs' better judgment (and dare I say the Admins' as well) to fit their own private agenda and include anything they like as prog,  thus making Xover a joke and become some kind of prog-related-related-related-related farce


I don't know Bjork well nor Metallica, but any controversial addition has to get approval from the higher ups.  I will only advocate for or oppose additions if I know their music well and I'll defend the addition of Tori to the end.  I don't see this site as being spuriously inclusive.  I do however see some people being seriously narrow minded.  As long as you have people of varying opinions and tastes there isn't a line you draw, it's more of weird twisty curve.  There's a huge gray area and that is the nature of music.  Deal with it. Angry LOL
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As far as I'm concerned, . . . And Justice for All is a progressive metal album. Metallica is only on prog-related because, apart from that album, nothing else they put out os progressive, with the exception of some proggish-sounding parts in Death Magnetic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 10:28
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Why is this such a hard fight? I don't get it. This site has gone out of its way to be spuriously inclusive, but this is where the big stand is made? This is what I have determined based on certain PA additions.

Bjork - Everything is prog
Tori Amos - Everything is rock
Metallica - Nothing else matters
Hang on a second, hereAngry. It's not THIS SITE that has gone out of their wayt to include these artistes you cite. It is some fanboys using their colllabs status and abusing their prerogatives and privileges that incluuded these against 90% of the other collabs' better judgment (and dare I say the Admins' as well) to fit their own private agenda and include anything they like as prog,  thus making Xover a joke and become some kind of prog-related-related-related-related farce

A little extreme, but still a good point. *COUGH* Bjork *COUGH* LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 10:35
no OF COURSE HE IS NOT PROG GUYSAngry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 19:39
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Why is this such a hard fight? I don't get it. This site has gone out of its way to be spuriously inclusive, but this is where the big stand is made? This is what I have determined based on certain PA additions.

Bjork - Everything is prog
Tori Amos - Everything is rock
Metallica - Nothing else matters
Hang on a second, hereAngry. It's not THIS SITE that has gone out of their wayt to include these artistes you cite. It is some fanboys using their colllabs status and abusing their prerogatives and privileges that incluuded these against 90% of the other collabs' better judgment (and dare I say the Admins' as well) to fit their own private agenda and include anything they like as prog,  thus making Xover a joke and become some kind of prog-related-related-related-related farce


I don't know Bjork well nor Metallica, but any controversial addition has to get approval from the higher ups.  I will only advocate for or oppose additions if I know their music well and I'll defend the addition of Tori to the end.  I don't see this site as being spuriously inclusive.  I do however see some people being seriously narrow minded. >>> don't be so hard on yourself >>> You got completely manipulated by some of your team colleagues (well mostly one sole kiwi).  As long as you have people of varying opinions and tastes there isn't a line you draw, it's more of weird twisty curve  >>> yup, but your curve is like the Ardennes BulgeLOL
There's a huge gray area and that is the nature of music. 
Deal with it. Angry LOL
No I wont have that! Whats wrong with Metallica! Big smile 


As far as I'm concerned, . . . And Justice for All is a progressive metal album. Metallica is only on prog-related because, apart from that album, nothing else they put out os progressive, with the exception of some proggish-sounding parts in Death Magnetic.
Actually I don't havze a problem with Metallica being here at allSmile...
if I remember well, I even voted yes for their Prog related inclusion
 
 
And my only problem with Bjork's inclusion is that it's in the wrong "genre/category". I wouldn't have any objection to her presence here if it was in Prog-related
 
And I could even live with tori amos being in prog-related, since the person she's utterly & completely cloning (Kate Bush) is in that category


Edited by Sean Trane - December 31 2010 at 19:44
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 22:26
Ahhh Happy New Year to you guys too Hug
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The new Jurassic park sequel is out soon, be sure to get the front row seats
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 07:52
better be a "has-been" than a "will never be"WinkTongue
 
 
 
anyway, I don't have a problem with Buckethead ion prog-related
let's just stay above the moral melee
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 16:53
I don't see how Buckethead can't be added. He has eclectic discography with lots of prog, avant-garde, minimalism... it's completely ridiculous that we don't have him here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 17:06
Gee! As I see this thread dates back to 2005! Shocked Is five years not enough time to achieve consensus?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 13:37
^Oh wow, I didn't even notice that. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2011 at 07:11

Jurassic park ? Kiwis ? Well, happy new year to you all as well.



I wonder if any of our admins / team members knows Buckethead well enough to support his cause. Anyone willing to step up ?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2011 at 08:43
Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

Gee! As I see this thread dates back to 2005! Shocked Is five years not enough time to achieve consensus?

As soon as he is added we can end this controversy.  I may have stated this earlier, but judging from the nine self titled CDs I have, not to mention at least a couple of CD that aren't self titled, I'd really like to see him added to Eclectic.  But if he's on here only for being on Big Eyeball In The Sky and Octave Of The Holy Innocents that's OK.  All the same, I find his absence as a self titled artist a grave omission.

By the way, Marty my man, what are you acquainted with?  Just curious.


Edited by Slartibartfast - January 23 2011 at 08:45
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2011 at 09:00
Well, Marty, I can tell you that if someone is going to come up with a proper proposal, based on facts rather than opinion, the Buckethead can be considered by the appropriate genre team. It won't be an admin doing that, and from the looks of it over the past 5 years, it's also not going to be someone from the genre teams....
Although, Brian seems to have an opinion, if only he would put it together in more than just a oneliner....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2011 at 11:58
OK, I'll give it a shot. Need to word process first.  Will do it in the form of a bio.


Edited by Slartibartfast - January 23 2011 at 11:59
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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^ I would be happy to help out if required (song/album suggestions, bio sections, references etc).
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2011 at 06:39
If Brian is willing to officially propose the Buckethead to admin team, I'll do my best to back him up for prog-related inclusion.

That being said, I'm not fully comfortable with Buckethead in Eclectic, but I believe he deserves a spot on ProgArchives.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2011 at 06:49
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

If Brian is willing to officially propose the Buckethead to admin team, I'll do my best to back him up for prog-related inclusion.

That being said, I'm not fully comfortable with Buckethead in Eclectic, but I believe he deserves a spot on ProgArchives.

Prog related wouldn't be a bad spot.  I haven't had free time to complete my write up yet.  I'll try and have something ready by the end of the week.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 13:51
He definately should. I don't even like his music, but he definately should.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 16:19
Jesus fuking Christ, just let this die. Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 16:42
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Jesus fuking Christ, just let this die. Unhappy

Or jesus f**king christ just add him
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2011 at 17:18
Originally posted by andyman1125 andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Jesus fuking Christ, just let this die. Unhappy

Or jesus f**king christ just add him


protip: he won't get added.
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